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Old 18th March 2010, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus View Post
I think it would be kind of cool if Jesus had written: "John 8:9-14" in the sand.
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Originally Posted by Tyndale View Post
John 8:31 - Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Nothing about *any* writings in that statement - let alone indicating that there is a "bible" .
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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus View Post
We are to abide in Jesus and Him in us. Of course you are right.

May I ask what you go by concerning what is written in the Bible if I may be so bold? Thanks and God bless
Steve
Hey , Steve

I write this with all due respect to you .

There are many problems with your question in relation to the thread . The author of the OP has not made a valid argument for the statement used for the title . If there *is* any valid argument , it would not come from the "bible" as the "bible" does not mention any such thing called a "bible" . Yes , I know that people have gone by tradition and continually discuss the Scriptures as a singular entity and that many don't understand someone bringing them back to reality that it is a *collection* of writings - not a singular writing itself . I also know that tradition uses the term "bible" when they mean "the Scriptures" . But , why , if the Scriptures are so important , do people use a term not included in the Scriptures *for* the Scriptures ?

This causes confusion because they look at "bible" ( singular ) from their tradition and then look at another tradition of theirs referring to the Scriptures ( plural ) in their entirety as the "word of God" ( singular ) . So , using those two traditions , whenever they see the word "word" they think that it means "bible" ( unless it is *too* ridiculous to do so in context ) . From this confusion , they think that the Scriptures actually do suggest all of the things about the Scriptures they have learned through tradition because the word "word" is all over the place .

So , I bring it back to you , first . Where in the Scriptures do they say to "abide" ( or any alternate word that you would choose ) by a "bible" and that said "bible" is the same that Jesus used ( per the OP ) . I would love to read how He and His disciples and all the Jews during that time read "Acts" , "James" , and the rest .

If you can make a valid argument ( line of reasoning ) using the Scriptures , I will show you my argument ( line of reasoning ) how that would contradict a lot of what people do who claim to "abide" by the "bible" and even what the Scriptures themselves state . I figure that the OP should be given a decent argument first before there would be a need for me to present an alternative . Don't you ?
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Originally Posted by Tyndale View Post
According to Rev 19:13, Jesus is called the word of God

The books which God has revealed to us (the ones which his Church agree on). He, in his own time might reveal other books and we will know they are his books when they pass the test of teaching, rebuking, correcting and training.

The books which we disagree on are not of God in their present state, because all of Christianity doesn't agree.
Well, if that is the rule, then you must throw out 2 Peter, 2 John, 3 John, Jude, and Revelation, because all of Christianity does doesn't agree on them and never has. Syrian Orthodoxy and the various Orthodox stripes which come from Syrian Orthodoxy have never received them as Scripture.
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Christ is God-God wrote the Bible(abide not physically)-Therefore Christ wrote the Bible
God didn't limit himself to the Bible, as noted Jesus is the Word
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Aside from everything that's been written here; we must abide by the WHOLE Bible?

Even Jewish food laws, when Jesus said it is not what goes into a man's stomach which makes him unclean?

Even the law about circumcising your male children, when Paul said that circumcision does not save and has no value?

Even rules about stoning people to death, not touching dead, or bleeding, people, not wearing clothes with mixed fibres, not marrying non Jews?

God inspired the Bible to be written, to reveal his love, Grace, mercy and salvation to us. Not everything in it has to be followed and observed by us today.

And by the way, I completely agree with others; Jesus is the Word of God, and we are to abide in him.
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Well, if that is the rule, then you must throw out 2 Peter, 2 John, 3 John, Jude, and Revelation, because all of Christianity does doesn't agree on them and never has. Syrian Orthodoxy and the various Orthodox stripes which come from Syrian Orthodoxy have never received them as Scripture.
Indeed, the Syriac Church never reads Revelation, which was always regarded with some suspicion in the East. The other Oriental Orthodox have the same NT canon as the EO and the RCC. The Orthodox are a good deal less fixed on the idea of the 'canon' than the West; indeed the Ethiopian Orthodox Church does not have a 'closed' canon and receives 81 books.

Its NT has 35 books, including 1 Clement, the Didiscalia and I and II Dominos. The full list is here: The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church

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I'm waiting for the video to come out
You know, I have a horrid feeling that there probably is one out there

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Originally Posted by Anglian View Post
You know, I have a horrid feeling that there probably is one out there
'Some Italian dude' did the Gospel of Matthew.

I won't say his name, I'll just call him that as an uncultured Aussie. He was later killed after making the only film I've ever walked out on in disgust... "Salo".
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