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View Poll Results: What do you think of the Catholic Eucharist? | |
It is just a simple wafer/ biscuit.
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It is symbolic only/ not the body of Christ.
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Other (state your answer in your post).
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Even if it is, we don't need to take part in communion anyway, it has no effect on salvation.
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It is probably the body of Christ but I'm not bothered enough to care.
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15th March 2010, 03:54 PM
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I want to know what your opinion is on this. But please don't be afriad to say what you think, I won't be offended or even report you if you get angry or bias.
I would just be happy enough to know and understand your objections or even just your emotions about this matter.
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15th March 2010, 05:33 PM
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15th March 2010, 05:41 PM
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I understand that the different groups themselves have differering opinions as to what it is, and I guess that those who think it is literally or mystically turned into the actual physical Body of Christ probably think only their particular religious officials have the power to do that so they think other group's crackers are just crackers while theirs are not. But those who think it is symbolic or whatever - wouldn't they think they all are merely symbols even if some think their particular group's crackers are not symbolic?
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16th March 2010, 01:20 AM
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Reps: 3,022,803,822,478,274,048 (power: 3,022,803,822,478,291) | | Originally Posted by christianmomof3  That is an interesting question because you did not ask "what do you think of the eucharist?" in general, but you referred specifically to the Catholic one. Wouldn't one's opinions on what the eucharist is be the same no matter which religious group is offering it?
I understand that the different groups themselves have differering opinions as to what it is, and I guess that those who think it is literally or mystically turned into the actual physical Body of Christ probably think only their particular religious officials have the power to do that so they think other group's crackers are just crackers while theirs are not. But those who think it is symbolic or whatever - wouldn't they think they all are merely symbols even if some think their particular group's crackers are not symbolic?
No to answer your last question. For example, RC do not believe that the Anglian's Eucharist is valid because they "broke off". Someone can surely explain that better.
To be "valid" in their (EO, OO, RC) eyes, one needs a duly ordained priest at an altar saying the right words with the right intent with at least one laity present. Only then may the wafer "change".
So, no.
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16th March 2010, 01:30 AM
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Reps: 686,740,314,295,649,152 (power: 686,740,314,295,668) | | Originally Posted by Standing Up No to answer your last question. For example, RC do not believe that the Anglian's Eucharist is valid because they "broke off". Someone can surely explain that better.
To be "valid" in their (EO, OO, RC) eyes, one needs a duly ordained priest at an altar saying the right words with the right intent with at least one laity present. Only then may the wafer "change".
So, no.
Hmm, but I am not asking about the RCC or Orthodox or any others who think their cracker turns into Jesus,
nor am I asking about if groups think each other's eucharists are "valid",but rather about people who think the whole act is symbolic.
If I think it is symbolic for my group, wouldn't I think it is merely symbolic for all groups? Why would I think it is symbolic for my group yet believe that the RCC turns their crackers into the actual flesh of Jesus?
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16th March 2010, 02:29 AM
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Reps: 3,022,803,822,478,274,048 (power: 3,022,803,822,478,291) | | Originally Posted by christianmomof3 Hmm, but I am not asking about the RCC or Orthodox or any others who think their cracker turns into Jesus,
nor am I asking about if groups think each other's eucharists are "valid",but rather about people who think the whole act is symbolic.
If I think it is symbolic for my group, wouldn't I think it is merely symbolic for all groups? Why would I think it is symbolic for my group yet believe that the RCC turns their crackers into the actual flesh of Jesus?
Ahh, got it; good comment. And one we probably do not want to answer beyond this. The practice of RC, EO, OO is either very right or very wrong.
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Reps: 345,642,087,194,918 (power: 345,642,087,197) | | | Luke 22:19 - 19And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me."
I don't see Jesus saying anything about the bread actually/physically being his body. I see Him saying that it represents His body and that we are to take communion in remembrance of Him and His sacrifice. |
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Can I just clearly state that the Catholic Church alone believes in transubstantiation and no other church does, not Orthodox or Anglicans, no one else. It has nothing to do with being cut off from the main stream.
Do some research please if you think other wise.
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16th March 2010, 05:43 PM
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Reps: 612,376,742,293,293,696 (power: 612,376,742,293,296) | | Originally Posted by jonathan180iq Luke 22:19 - 19And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me."
I don't see Jesus saying anything about the bread actually/physically being his body. I see Him saying that it represents His body and that we are to take communion in remembrance of Him and His sacrifice.
This is the kind of answer I am looking for. What else have you got? |
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Reps: 345,642,087,194,918 (power: 345,642,087,197) | | That's pretty much it. We (by "we" I guess I should state that I attend a "non-denominational" church) take communion as a community in symbolic remembrance of Jesus' sacrifice, as close as we think it is described in the Bible.
I mean, we don't sit around and talk about buying swords or anthing...  | | |
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