Should we begin requiring breast enlargement surgery?
While the question is factitious, this seems to be a serious issue in some countries.
Recently, Japan decided to ban lolicon (if you don't know what it is, DO NOT google it), except their ban states "'visual depictions' of characters who sound or appear to be 18 years old or younger". I have a friend (19) who is married, but 'appears to be 18 years or younger'.
While many of us on this site find pornography to be immoral, just as many of us think it should be legal based on issues of free speech. Now, some may point out that these stories happen outside of the US, but the underlying trend for them can been seen in America as well, these are just two of the more recent stories I have recently heard about (a third one includes a guy in the USA getting put in jail for owning drawn (yes, DRAWN, not sketched, drawn) images considered obscene) show a trend which I see in many people I encounter online and off, that of over doing things to protect the children.
Much like all the added hassle at the airports, much of which does not increase safety by any noticeable factor, if at all, done for the sake of our safety, it seems many societies at large are finding really weird ways of 'protecting the children'.
Thus my question is simple, should we require all women with sizes deemed too small (we will leave exactly what size is too small undefined for now) to get breast enlargements since this may stop some child abuse (ask Australia exactly how that logic works)?
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I would hope the people of Australia will require their legislators to get a brain enlargement. Might not be a bad idea for the Japanese as well. As for the "we," Americans, that will all depend on whether or not our legislators jump on this broken bandwagon.
When SCOTUS (the Supreme Court Of The United States) first ruled that child pornography could be treated differently (more harshly and with less First Amendment protection [Compare Stanley v Georgia (1969) to Osbourne v Ohio (1990)] than other forms of Obscenity, it was on the basis that actual live children had been harmed in the making of it. For that reason, child pornography could only be charged for film-based (photographs and movie reels) depiction of actual children (later reasonably expanded to include video tape and digital media).
But from the get-go there have been attempts to include more and more material that did not require live children or did not involve them in a pornographic setting: young-looking adults with shaved "short hairs" and small breasts, children's heads photo-shopped on young, but clearly adult bodies, underwear and swimsuit photos, 3-D "sims," etc. The attempts have met with mixed results, most losing because of the original distinction, some getting a pass, but with an affirmative defense available, and one or two getting a full pass.
Recently Congress passed a law similar to Japan's "lolicon" law you mentioned. It specifically bans manga/anime style depictions, This law, as far as I know, has not been tested.
Edited to note: I did not know that the shortened version of "pubic hairs" was censored
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Last edited by OllieFranz; 10th March 2010 at 08:08 PM.
wait they banned lolicon?
But the entire purpose is to protect children. If no children are harmed, as in a drawing, then what's it matter? Nobody gets hurt form a drawing, save carpal tunnel.
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wait they banned lolicon?
But the entire purpose is to protect children. If no children are harmed, as in a drawing, then what's it matter? Nobody gets hurt form a drawing, save carpal tunnel.
Lets pray that the internet saves us form this insanity. The last refuge of free speech.
I had thought that the 2006 Fabrizio case had settled the matter, but I read last year about the new law.
I looked it up at the time and found it in the US Code, but I did not note its designation at the time. I'm searching (discretely) for a link that would lead to the law, but I haven't found it yet. I'll post again when I find it.
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I have found an old news article about a 2008 ruling upholding a law that makes soliciting to distribute child porn illegal, even if the material does not meet the standards to be prosecuted under the main child porn law --in fact, even if there is no material at all, and the offer is a fraud.
It is possible that this is the law I remember, but I don't think so. The intent to distribute angle is too prominant, and I don't think I'd forget that aspect, and the "no material at all" fraud clause makes it even more prominant. I'll keep looking.
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Lets pray that the internet saves us form this insanity. The last refuge of free speech.
Never thought I'd be rootin for 4chan
AN: If you odn't know what it is, DO NOT google it. You will hate me forever.
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I decided to google it. Looks like its just mostly cartoons. I must admit, the Japanese seem to have some really weird sexual fetishes. I wonder why most of it originates in Japan.