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8th March 2010, 08:45 AM
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Teen Paralyzed After Getting H1N1 Vaccine - Health News Story - WHIO Dayton
"The only obvious cause was the H1N1 vaccination," Shafrir said.
"I kept pestering my parents to get me this shot. I got it, and a month later, it went bad," Robert said.
"I'm still in shock from it. I can't believe that this happened to him," his mother, Belinda Beckham said.
For all those pushing this vaccine, in their great wisdom, the goverment funded this vaccine with the terrorism bill, which means the traditional vaccine fund for damages related to vaccines, does not apply here.
IMO if the goverment is pushing a vaccine, it should have the goverments
backing. Not a hand out, but an insurance policy for the rare occasions this life changing events happen. And for the doubters, it is a rare event, but destroys lives when it does happen.
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8th March 2010, 09:01 AM
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And really.. this is a freak occurence, that (judging from the article) doesn't actually have too much to do with the vaccine itself. Little Timmy sneezing in his general direction probably has the same chance of causing this condition.
edit: oh, and just noticed this from the article:
"Robert's parents are disabled"
Coincidence? Or some genetic disorder/predisposition? (not that that has any influence on whether the family should be supported financially, but still..) |
8th March 2010, 11:28 AM
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8th March 2010, 12:06 PM
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But pandemic (though not seasonal) flu is covered under the PREP Act. Which provides compensation to persons injured by countermeasures used to deal with pandemics, or security threats. I don't know if H1N1 has been declared a pandemic for which the PREP act is applicable. It's up to the HHS Secretary and has to meet certain legal requirements.
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8th March 2010, 12:09 PM
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8th March 2010, 12:24 PM
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Reps: 27,354,533,772,047,632 (power: 27,354,533,772,065) | | Originally Posted by Billnew  Teen Paralyzed After Getting H1N1 Vaccine - Health News Story - WHIO Dayton
For all those pushing this vaccine, in their great wisdom, the goverment funded this vaccine with the terrorism bill, which means the traditional vaccine fund for damages related to vaccines, does not apply here.
IMO if the goverment is pushing a vaccine, it should have the goverments
backing. Not a hand out, but an insurance policy for the rare occasions this life changing events happen. And for the doubters, it is a rare event, but destroys lives when it does happen.
As to the paralysis, people bodies are complex chemical reactions, and things can go bad.
As to the government not helping with damage related expenses, that is just stupid. Society benefits from people taking the vaccine, thus damage caused by it should be compensated by society, or at least aided.
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8th March 2010, 01:16 PM
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Reps: 10,660,354,124,449,582 (power: 10,660,354,124,465) | | Originally Posted by CaptainNemo1138 I took the vaccine and I'm fine. Stop spreading false witness.
I don't think the point was that the vaccine is dangerous, but rather that the way the vaccine was given out means that there's nobody that can really be held accountable in the rare cases that the vaccine does cause a problem. |
8th March 2010, 02:01 PM
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8th March 2010, 02:16 PM
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Reps: 264,690,443,271,458,624 (power: 264,690,443,271,483) | | Originally Posted by Mystman I think the government should always help people who're in financial trouble do to freak occurences.
And really.. this is a freak occurence, that (judging from the article) doesn't actually have too much to do with the vaccine itself. Little Timmy sneezing in his general direction probably has the same chance of causing this condition.
edit: oh, and just noticed this from the article:
"Robert's parents are disabled"
Coincidence? Or some genetic disorder/predisposition? (not that that has any influence on whether the family should be supported financially, but still..)
I missed that. Originally Posted by CaptainNemo1138 I took the vaccine and I'm fine. Stop spreading false witness.
Millions take the vast majority of vaccines without incident, but I might be wrong, but I think every vaccine has had some isolated severe reactions.
So I am not spreading false witness. The purpose of the vaccine injury fund is to help those few people that have to deal with these cases.
Each person/parent must decide if the risks out way the benefits. Every parent should know there is a chance of a severe reaction to vaccines. Originally Posted by jayem Season flu and H1N1 vaccines are excluded from coverage under the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, which compensates adverse reactions to several commonly used vaccines.
But pandemic (though not seasonal) flu is covered under the PREP Act. Which provides compensation to persons injured by countermeasures used to deal with pandemics, or security threats. I don't know if H1N1 has been declared a pandemic for which the PREP act is applicable. It's up to the HHS Secretary and has to meet certain legal requirements.
The article said that seasonal flu was covered, I don't know personally.
I just know the fund does exist, as I have given some immunizations. Originally Posted by 4xbypass One paralysis compared to thousands of deaths averted? Yup, still worth it.
Did the vaccine prevent deaths? What percentage of the population was immunized? What was the death toll at the peak of the "Pandemic"?
Its worth it to every person other than the that one.
If I was this teens parents, I would feel a little better knowing the teen wanted the vaccine. I couldn't imagine forcing a child to get a vaccine and have this happen.
Did we prevent disaster, or just immunize millions of people for nothing?
we will never know.
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8th March 2010, 02:27 PM
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Reps: 32,306,661,808,136 (power: 0) | | Did the vaccine prevent deaths? What percentage of the population was immunized? What was the death toll at the peak of the "Pandemic"?
Its worth it to every person other than the that one.
If I was this teens parents, I would feel a little better knowing the teen wanted the vaccine. I couldn't imagine forcing a child to get a vaccine and have this happen.
Did we prevent disaster, or just immunize millions of people for nothing?
we will never know.
Yup. Flu vaccines come out every year. If they prevent even one death it was worth it. Or don't you value life? | | |
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