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7th March 2010, 04:23 PM
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Reps: 183,543,941,471,690,208 (power: 183,543,941,471,700) | | Originally Posted by Intercisus I'm not calling out any names or denominations but just looking for a little clarification on my own observation of something I've seen much of on GT. It seems that for many the Trinity has been cut down two persons. The Holy Spirit is no longer God, but defined as "that which sanctions whatever nutty idea I happen to come up with by wiring together any two passages from Scripture". Is this not the very essence of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, who is God Himself?
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Good thread. I fully endorse restoring the Holy Spirit as the third Person of the Trinity.  You have my support.
Let me add to this. Some Christians believe the Father and the Son are in heaven and the Holy Spirit is on earth. This is rubbish. Since God is Omnipresent (Psalm 139:7-8), the Father and the Son are also with the Holy Spirit on earth.
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7th March 2010, 04:41 PM
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Reps: 1,142,035,661,660,045,184 (power: 1,142,035,661,660,075) | | Originally Posted by Intercisus I'm not calling out any names or denominations but just looking for a little clarification on my own observation of something I've seen much of on GT. It seems that for many the Trinity has been cut down two persons. The Holy Spirit is no longer God, but defined as "that which sanctions whatever nutty idea I happen to come up with by wiring together any two passages from Scripture". Is this not the very essence of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, who is God Himself?
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Of course He is God... Three persons, only one God. that's Christianity 101... and there is no room for debate.
If it's not a correct orthodox teaching of the Trinity- then guess what? It's not Christian and that heterodoxy truly has no place on a Christan site , but you know, what ever... I don't get to call any shots arond here.
The problem is too many are entertaining outrageous non Christian heterodox beliefs and it should not have a place here, or anywhere that bares the name Christian... but it does.
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7th March 2010, 04:53 PM
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Reps: 160,133,279,627,569 (power: 160,133,279,643) | | Originally Posted by Canaan-84 As far as I know the Holy Spirit is God. In fact wasn't there ancient Jewish writings discovered recently that mention God as three entities?
No doubt it was found next to yet another piece of the true cross and a copy of the Donation of Constantine.
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Reps: 160,133,279,627,569 (power: 160,133,279,643) | | Originally Posted by benedictaoo Of course He is God... Three persons, only one God. that's Christianity 101... and there is no room for debate.
Pull the other leg; it has bells on it.
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Reps: 160,133,279,627,569 (power: 160,133,279,643) | | Originally Posted by Intercisus If you find the premise of this thread harsh just wait till I start my thread on the correlation between those who cannot hear the phrase "Mother of God" without twitching and those who go out of their way to never acknowledge Christ as truly God.
The horror!
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Reps: 36,661,185,937,442,840 (power: 36,661,185,937,446) | | Originally Posted by benedictaoo Of course He is God... Three persons, only one God. that's Christianity 101... and there is no room for debate.
If it's not a correct orthodox teaching of the Trinity- then guess what? It's not Christian and that heterodoxy truly has no place on a Christan site , but you know, what ever... I don't get to call any shots arond here.
The problem is too many are entertaining outrageous non Christian heterodox beliefs and it should not have a place here, or anywhere that bares the name Christian... but it does.
amen, if any, this tread needed to stop at the second post with an astounding YES! Why did the person even start this tread  Get it down plain straight and clear, If there is no Trinity, it's not Christianity.
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Ditto! Originally Posted by Intercisus OK, apparently clarification is needed. I'm in no way claiming the Holy Spirit is not God. In fact, the exact opposite is true. The OP was meant specifically to point out the disease running rampant around GT, of people demoting the Holy Spirit from being God to rather "just some indistinct seal of approval for whatever idea I'm promoting at the moment."
Hey, would you mind giving at least one or two examples of this?
I have not witnessed it, not here in GT... Originally Posted by Eucharisted I've heard people say God doesn't exist because God told them so. Such is the extent of our intelligence: ...
lol, so is THIS what this is all about?
What's your point Eucharist, people CANT hear God?
( I really hope that's not your conclusion on the matter
because that would be a sad commentary on all that
Jesus came to accomplish, imo) Originally Posted by ebia Do they? I can't say I'd noticed such. Perhaps you could give some examples or something that has led you to this conclusion?
Woah, it must be true, Great minds think alike
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