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1st March 2010, 03:06 PM
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Reps: 27,354,533,772,047,632 (power: 27,354,533,772,067) | | Originally Posted by 4xbypass  Gender is a social construct. Biological sex is a necessary evil. I am a male and I don't find female body construction attractive in he slightest. But that's because I'm more evolved than the average human.
More evolved would imply you are better fit to pass your genes on in the species. I am failing to see how you are more evolved. From what I have read, your heterosexual relatives would likely be more fertile, thus more evolved.
Then again, maybe not finding females attractive lead to you being more likely to donate to a sperm bank, and makes it more likely your donations will be picked to pass on.
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1st March 2010, 03:20 PM
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Reps: 45,447,209,828,130,232 (power: 45,447,209,828,136) | | Originally Posted by 4xbypass Gender is a social construct. Biological sex is a necessary evil. I am a male and I don't find female body construction attractive in he slightest. But that's because I'm more evolved than the average human.
You're starting to get to that point alot of fundamentalists are at; I can't tell if you're being satirical or being serious.
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1st March 2010, 03:51 PM
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Reps: 32,306,661,808,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by lawtonfogle More evolved would imply you are better fit to pass your genes on in the species. I am failing to see how you are more evolved. From what I have read, your heterosexual relatives would likely be more fertile, thus more evolved.
Then again, maybe not finding females attractive lead to you being more likely to donate to a sperm bank, and makes it more likely your donations will be picked to pass on.
As unlikely as it seems, human evolution has introduced morality into evolution as a whole. Granted I'm far less likely to fling DNA at a woman than some knuckle-dragging frat boy, but when and if I ever choose to mate with a female it will be guaranteed not to be because of some hormonal brain-bypassing instinct but rather a conscious, deliberate, and positive choice to conceive. Instead of some reluctant "oops I did it again and she got pregnant guess I had better pay the child support until I can change my name (assuming she even knew it in the first place) and escape" moment like most heteroSEXuals. Isn't that better for our evolution?  |
1st March 2010, 04:05 PM
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Reps: 27,354,533,772,047,632 (power: 27,354,533,772,067) | | Originally Posted by 4xbypass As unlikely as it seems, human evolution has introduced morality into evolution as a whole. Granted I'm far less likely to fling DNA at a woman than some knuckle-dragging frat boy, but when and if I ever choose to mate with a female it will be guaranteed not to be because of some hormonal brain-bypassing instinct but rather a conscious, deliberate, and positive choice to conceive. Instead of some reluctant "oops I did it again and she got pregnant guess I had better pay the child support until I can change my name (assuming she even knew it in the first place) and escape" moment like most heteroSEXuals. Isn't that better for our evolution?
If evolution was not amoral, that might be the case, but in all honesty, you will have less influence on the generation than the 'oops I did it again' group, and thus they are will take over the population.
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"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you"
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Life starts before conception. Supporting a woman's right to choose to not fertilize an egg, giving her the ability to choose to let a life die, is pro-choice, not pro-life.
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1st March 2010, 04:18 PM
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Reps: 32,306,661,808,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by lawtonfogle If evolution was not amoral, that might be the case, but in all honesty, you will have less influence on the generation than the 'oops I did it again' group, and thus they are will take over the population.
Not if they and/or their offspring are forceably and hilariously sterilized  http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnex...&v=WhzIk-ZWnTc
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1st March 2010, 05:11 PM
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Reps: 1,971,034,352,550,617 (power: 1,971,034,352,563) | | Originally Posted by 4xbypass I can sum up all the objections to gays serving openly in one sentence. "Eeek! a gay guy might see my small penis and I'm embarassed!" Brilliant I have noticed that the heterosexual men most worried about showering with a gay man are the overweight and less attractive hetero men…the kind of men you have to wonder just why any woman would want to see them naked
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1st March 2010, 05:25 PM
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Reps: 32,306,661,808,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by BigBadWlf Brilliant
I have noticed that the heterosexual men most worried about showering with a gay man are the overweight and less attractive hetero men…the kind of men you have to wonder just why any woman would want to see them naked
Look, there are ways to maximize your attractiveness to the opposite/same-sex. Namely: losing that beer gut and working the glutes...(trust me all gay guys/straight gals check those out), but why bother worrying about what the people you're not sexually capable of attracting anyway think? |
1st March 2010, 05:28 PM
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"I argued that giving lesbians and homosexuals a specially protected legal status would inevitably lead to infringing upon the First Amendment rights of religious believers and cultural traditionalists..."
How would repeal of DADT give gays and lesbians a protected legal status that other people don't have?
And was the Family Research Council guy really censored?
“The [Air Force] Chaplain’s Office retracted Mr. Perkins’ invitation after his recent public comments made many who planned to attend the event uncomfortable,” the Andrews base public affairs office said in a statement issued late Thursday, [February 25].
Does this Mr. Perkins, or anyone else for that matter, have a right to speak at at Air Force sponsored event? Can't the Air Force decide for itself who it will invite to an official function? In no way does that infringe on Mr. Perkins 1st Amendment right to express his opinions.
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1st March 2010, 05:58 PM
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Reps: 3,058,096,514,874,249 (power: 3,058,096,514,895) | | Originally Posted by 4xbypass I can sum up all the objections to gays serving openly in one sentence. "Eeek! a gay guy might see my small penis and I'm embarassed!"
Perhaps for some but obviously your comment is ridiculous. There is no way for you to know why all people object to the repeal of DADT. Sarcasm will not allay the fears or correct the erroneous stereotypes of those who disagree with you.
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Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy; O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
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1st March 2010, 06:00 PM
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Reps: 3,058,096,514,874,249 (power: 3,058,096,514,895) | | Originally Posted by 4xbypass Gender is a social construct. Biological sex is a necessary evil. I am a male and I don't find female body construction attractive in he slightest. But that's because I'm more evolved than the average human.
Pretty arrogant comment, I'd be interested in knowing how you support it.
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Lord, make me an instrument of your peace,
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy; O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.
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