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11th March 2010, 03:41 AM
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Reps: 10,450,327,509,946,648 (power: 10,450,327,509,956) | | I am saying love can only be described in poetic language yet it is always more but never different.
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poets do not always speak of love in the same way. . . . and if you recognize a certain way in which they do speak of it which is uncharacteristic of all the other ways in which they do, you're obviously not recognizing "love" on the basis of poetic description alone.
there is an insurmountable gap between what we can know and what is actual. true love is "actual", and as an "actual" it can only be understood if the person to which it is understood is made "actual" also. you can neither give or receive true love unless you know what it is, and you cannot come to know what it is on your own. |
11th March 2010, 07:19 PM
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Reps: 23,669,011,280 (power: 23,669,015) | | | brightmorningstar your last one was spot on for part of the meaning of this.
daniel777 I repeat that love is infinite most poetry tries to summarize it completely which is always found impossible as most admit. Take what brightmorningstar said in the last about by choosing God you have to be choosing to love. Then add that the characteristics are the simply factors showing what direction from the center (which is doing nothing) the fruits of love are on. Can you say you acted out of love if you harm someone for your own gain? |
11th March 2010, 08:02 PM
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Reps: 10,450,327,509,946,648 (power: 10,450,327,509,956) | | I repeat that love is infinite most poetry tries to summarize it completely which is always found impossible as most admit.
of course it's impossible to fully describe. Then add that the characteristics are the simply factors showing what direction from the center (which is doing nothing) the fruits of love are on.
i don't understand this sentence. Can you say you acted out of love if you harm someone for your own gain?
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how does any of this relate to saying that love can only be described in poetic language?
why can love only be described in poetic language? |
12th March 2010, 04:48 AM
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Reps: 23,669,011,280 (power: 23,669,015) | | | Because beauty in order to describe it one should use beautiful language other wise emotional appeal is lost. Poetic language can make something feel overwhelmingly vast and impossible to understand while formal language does not hold the same feel. If you wish to invoke formality, then you use formal language. Language used should match the personality of what you are describing. The bible when speaking of love use wording that in some since is poetic. |
12th March 2010, 09:54 PM
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Reps: 10,450,327,509,946,648 (power: 10,450,327,509,956) | | Because beauty in order to describe it one should use beautiful language other wise emotional appeal is lost. Poetic language can make something feel overwhelmingly vast and impossible to understand while formal language does not hold the same feel. If you wish to invoke formality, then you use formal language. Language used should match the personality of what you are describing. The bible when speaking of love use wording that in some since is poetic.
one should use =/= one has to use, or one must use.
it is better to use poetic language =/= all other ways are wrong.
and the bible does not always use poetic language when describing love.
so, did you mean what you said when you said that love can only be described in poetic language, or did you mean that it is better to describe love in poetic language? |
13th March 2010, 12:48 PM
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Reps: 23,669,011,280 (power: 23,669,015) | | | Let me rephrase that, "One can attempt to use formal language to describe love, yet it will be inadequate because love is not formal. One would be left making love appearing to be something it is not every single time." Love is many things so no one can describe it completely, poetic language leaves freedom for multiple correct interpretations while formal language boxes whatever it is describing or at least dulls it! So I did mean what I said. However it makes no since to say because poets describe it differently it means poetic language is not the right way to go about describing it. "Can you say you acted out of love if you harm someone for your own gain?" Read that to mean exactly what it is asking. It is a rhetorical question, "Of course you can't truthfully say your actions are love if you harm another to benefit yourself." | | |
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