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Old 17th August 2012, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by he-man View Post
You missed 12:24?
Yesterday I skipped over the verses you had already translated. I was angry yesterday about how some people who believe differently than you and I believe twist our words around to mean something that we don't mean and then attack our beliefs because they accuse us of having twisted beliefs.
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Old 17th August 2012, 08:25 AM
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Mat 12:24
οι δε φαρισαιοι ακουσαντες ειπον ουτος ουκ εκβαλλει τα δαιμονια ει μη εν τω βεελζεβουλ αρχοντι των δαιμονιων

The But Pharisees hearing said he doesn't throw-out the daimons if not in the Beelzeboul ruler the daimons

But the Pharisees hearing this said, "The only way he can throw out daimons is by using the power of Beelzeboul, the ruler of the daimons."
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Old 17th August 2012, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Timothew View Post
Yesterday I skipped over the verses you had already translated. I was angry yesterday about how some people who believe differently than you and I believe twist our words around to mean something that we don't mean and then attack our beliefs because they accuse us of having twisted beliefs.
My dear Aunt gave me an example of what we should do in that case, You have a very Strong will and to that angry voice that says otherwise in your head, just tell it to shut up and be quiet.
Works for me! Praise the Lord!.
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1Ch 25:5 all these were sons of Heman the king’s seer in the words of God, to exalt his power;Hozeh ("seer") also means "to see" or "to perceive," but is also used in reference to musicians. It is also used to describe a counselor or an advisor to a king. The Hebrew does not necessarily indicate that the person is a prophet, but rather an advisor—someone who has wisdom.
It means "one who has insight." Hence, the essential meaning in Greek is "interpreter."
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Mat 12:26

και ει ο σατανας τον σαταναν εκβαλλει εφ εαυτον εμερισθη πως ουν σταθησεται η βασιλεια αυτου

and if the Satan the Satan throws-out against himself divided how then stands the kingdom his

And if Satan throws out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?
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Old 20th August 2012, 07:32 AM
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Mat 12:27

και ει εγω εν βεελζεβουλ εκβαλλω τα δαιμονια οι υιοι υμων εν τινι εκβαλλουσιν δια τουτο αυτοι υμων εσονται κριται

and if I in Beelzeboul throw-out the daimons the sons your in what they-throw-out because-of this they your are judges

And if I throw out daimons in Beelzeboul's name, in what name do your sons throw them out? Because of this, they are your judges.
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Mat 12:26

και ει ο σατανας τον σαταναν εκβαλλει εφ εαυτον εμερισθη πως ουν σταθησεται η βασιλεια αυτου

and if the Satan the Satan throws-out against himself divided how then stands the kingdom his

And if Satan throws out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?
Mat 12:26 και ει ο σατανας τον σαταναν εκβαλλει εφ εαυτον εμερισθη πως ουν σταθησεται η βασιλεια αυτου

Mat 12:26 And if the demon is driven out of demons, they are divided against themselves; then how shall their kingdom be able to stand?
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1Ch 25:5 all these were sons of Heman the king’s seer in the words of God, to exalt his power;Hozeh ("seer") also means "to see" or "to perceive," but is also used in reference to musicians. It is also used to describe a counselor or an advisor to a king. The Hebrew does not necessarily indicate that the person is a prophet, but rather an advisor—someone who has wisdom.
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Old 21st August 2012, 08:10 AM
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Mat 12:28

ει δε εν πνευματι θεου εγω εκβαλλω τα δαιμονια αρα εφθασεν εφ υμας η βασιλεια του θεου

if but in spirit God I I-cast-out the daimons therefore arrived upon you the kingdom the God

But if I cast out daimons in the spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has arrived upon you.
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Mat 12:27

και ει εγω εν βεελζεβουλ εκβαλλω τα δαιμονια οι υιοι υμων εν τινι εκβαλλουσιν δια τουτο αυτοι υμων εσονται κριται

and if I in Beelzeboul throw-out the daimons the sons your in what they-throw-out because-of this they your are judges

And if I throw out daimons in Beelzeboul's name, in what name do your sons throw them out? Because of this, they are your judges.
Mat 12:27 και ει εγω εν βεελζεβουλ εκβαλλω τα δαιμονια οι υιοι υμων εν τινι εκβαλλουσιν δια τουτο αυτοι κριται εσονται υμων

Mat 12:27 And if I, by a polytheistic Semitic god named Baal cast out demons, by what extent do your sons drive them out? by means of this they shall be your judges
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1Ch 25:5 all these were sons of Heman the king’s seer in the words of God, to exalt his power;Hozeh ("seer") also means "to see" or "to perceive," but is also used in reference to musicians. It is also used to describe a counselor or an advisor to a king. The Hebrew does not necessarily indicate that the person is a prophet, but rather an advisor—someone who has wisdom.
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Mat 12:28

ει δε εν πνευματι θεου εγω εκβαλλω τα δαιμονια αρα εφθασεν εφ υμας η βασιλεια του θεου

if but in spirit God I I-cast-out the daimons therefore arrived upon you the kingdom the God

But if I cast out daimons in the spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has arrived upon you.
Mat 12:28
ει δε εν πνευματι θεου εγω εκβαλλω τα δαιμονια αρα εφθασεν εφ υμας η βασιλεια του θεου

Mat 12:28 But if by the Spirit of God, I do drive out the demons, so has come through upon you the reign of God.
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1Ch 25:5 all these were sons of Heman the king’s seer in the words of God, to exalt his power;Hozeh ("seer") also means "to see" or "to perceive," but is also used in reference to musicians. It is also used to describe a counselor or an advisor to a king. The Hebrew does not necessarily indicate that the person is a prophet, but rather an advisor—someone who has wisdom.
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Mat 12:29

η πως δυναται τις εισελθειν εις την οικιαν του ισχυρου και τα σκευη αυτου διαρπασαι εαν μη πρωτον δηση τον ισχυρον και τοτε την οικιαν αυτου διαρπασει

or how can anyone enter into the house the strong-(man) and the vessels his all-snatch if not first bind the strong-(man) and then the house his he-will-all-snatch.

Or how can anyone enter a powerful man's house and snatch up all of his vessels if he doesn't tie up the the strongman and then he will loot his house.
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