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Old 22nd January 2010, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryder06 View Post
...what Jesus taught
Exclusivism is the perennial heresy of all religions.
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Originally Posted by Yarddog View Post
I don't see any similarites and only someone who doesn't understand Catholicism would.

Simply put, the article doesn't liken voodoo to Catholicism but does show a "few" instances where someone without understanding could liken the two. The article's main issue is not about the two completely different religions.

It is an interesting article but not what it has been portrayed to be.
The author of the article listed the "similarities". As I said, I'm really only interested in the "praying to spirits to intercede to the Father on their behalf" aspect of both religions.

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Is it wrong for Buddists to pray to spirits? [/quote]
Yes. Besides, I don't think Buddhist pray to spirits in hopes that they will intercede to God on their behalf.

Voodoo has nothing to do with Christianity.
didn't says it did.

There are many SDA's, JW's, and Pentecostals, in Haiti, as well. Do you liken them to voodoo as well?
I do not. Of course, now I can only speak about SDA doctrine, we don't pray to spirits. If there are SDA's praying to spirits in Haiti then that is a personal problem, but not one for our church.
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Originally Posted by Yab Yum View Post
Exclusivism is the perennial heresy of all religions.
One Lord, One Faith, One baptism. What do you call that?
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Originally Posted by Stryder06 View Post
The author of the article listed the "similarities".
But you had a commentary stating that it was "disturbing" and only someone who doesn't understand Catholicisms would see similarities.

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As I said, I'm really only interested in the "praying to spirits to intercede to the Father on their behalf" aspect of both religions.
How is praying to someone in heaven with our God and Father, similar to someone in praying to their dead relatives, which voodoo teaches that the spirits of the dead live side by side in the world of the living.
Originally Posted by Stryder06 View Post
Yes. Besides, I don't think Buddhist pray to spirits in hopes that they will intercede to God on their behalf.
The point that I was making was about any "false" religion.

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didn't says it did.
Catholicism is Christian.

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I do not. Of course, now I can only speak about SDA doctrine, we don't pray to spirits. If there are SDA's praying to spirits in Haiti then that is a personal problem, but not one for our church.
It is not a problem in any of the ancient Churches. The misconception lies in the newer Churches which don't understand the early Church.
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Originally Posted by Stryder06 View Post
Why does that matter? The bottom line is that voodoo practitioners pray to spirits for them to intercede on their behalf and so do catholics.
It matters because having a lack of understanding of something, writing an article about it and then having that article read only breeds further ignorance for those that read it.


Adventists worship on Saturday. Jews worship on Saturday. Does that make Adventists Jews? Because that logic is the exact same logic that you are using with Voodoo and Catholicism.
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Originally Posted by E.C. View Post
It matters because having a lack of understanding of something, writing an article about it and then having that article read only breeds further ignorance for those that read it.


Adventists worship on Saturday. Jews worship on Saturday. Does that make Adventists Jews? Because that logic is the exact same logic that you are using with Voodoo and Catholicism.
Not at all. I think you're totally missing what I'm saying. I'm not saying that Catholicism and Voodoo are one in the same. I was simply asking if those who pray to spirits think that the people who practice voodoo and who do the same are wrong? And if so why?
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Originally Posted by E.C. View Post
Adventists worship on Saturday. Jews worship on Saturday. Does that make Adventists Jews? Because that logic is the exact same logic that you are using with Voodoo and Catholicism.
Catholics worship on Sunday
Adventists worship in Saturday
Muslims worship on Friday
Therefore Adventists are closer to being Muslim than Catholics.

Dumb logic - yes

So is the logic of the article in the OP!
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Originally Posted by Yarddog View Post
But you had a commentary stating that it was "disturbing" and only someone who doesn't understand Catholicisms would see similarities.
Catholics pray to spirits for them to intercede for them. Voodoo practitioners pray to spirits for them to intercede for them. Yeah that is disturbing

How is praying to someone in heaven with our God and Father, similar to someone in praying to their dead relatives, which voodoo teaches that the spirits of the dead live side by side in the world of the living.
From the article, it stated that they pray to the spirits to intercede to their version of God.

The point that I was making was about any "false" religion.
Ok.

It is not a problem in any of the ancient Churches. The misconception lies in the newer Churches which don't understand the early Church.
I would say that it was a problem in the ancient churches. Again, the catholic church saying that the catholic church hasn't had any issues with it isn't good enough for me. The bible doesn't teach a thing about praying to spirits of dead people. I take that back. The bible does teach about communicating with the dead. We aren't suppose to do it. Why? Because they're dead. Someone is listening to you but I can promise you it isn't who you think it is.
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Originally Posted by Secundulus View Post
Catholics worship on Sunday
Adventists worship in Saturday
Muslims worship on Friday
Therefore Adventists are closer to being Muslim than Catholics.

Dumb logic - yes

So is the logic of the article in the OP!
Not even.

They pray to loa, or spirits, who then intercede with God on their behalf — just as Catholics pray to saints.
I didn't say it. They did. If there is a difference than please explain. That's what I've been asking.
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