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Old 13th January 2010, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bricklayer View Post
Anyone who enjoys something like this forum is well read enough to know that this is not the norm. Freedom, peace and proserity are not the normal state of affairs throughout human history.

I am middle-aged, middle-class, mid-western, painfully average white-guy.

My experience on earth probably could not even be comprehended by the vast majority of the people who are or have been.

We live in a very fragile bubble, and we are hopelessly surrounded by our historic enemy,
each other.

I'm not a conspiracy believer type, but I do believe that human nature works against humanity. That is why I do not believe in consentrating authority. If human nature were other than what it is, socialism would be a better plan. Human nature being what it is, we need to compartmentalise authority/responsibility', like the water-tight bulkheads of a ship.

Futility is like the "water behind the dam". Futility, tyrany, surfdom and the like are the natural historical state of affairs.
I agree 100%.
I just don't believe the interpretation of the act to be correct.
Obama will move towards more goverment, more socialism, but it will not be any great leap, as this would be.
Obama knows the people can't be stampeded into socialism, the people would revolt. Obama knows if he nudges the populace closer and closer, it will accept the new goverment powers and continue to graze on the benefits, until they again nudge them towards socialism. He has studied Marxism and socialism, he knows the theories and philosophies of the people that have taught these studies. He himself has taught this.
The flame of freedom in the US will not flare out, but flicker slowly away,
the fuel being syphoned away, one step at a time, until the flame is gone.
The goverment of the people, will shift to the people serving goverment.

As I said, don't trust goverment, but if someone says something drastic is happening, look but don't panic.
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6 trillion more debt, What would it have been if the Congress of "NO" was alittle more agreeable?

is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced.(but) in my hometown of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence, and they’re not using AK-47s, they’re using cheap handguns.”
Obama makes it known, he will work to ban assault weapons and handguns.
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Old 13th January 2010, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by aisy_Day View Post
Plagiarism from Sorcha Faal. Worse, it's been slightly altered to change the meaning (for example, leaving off "
New reports circulating in the Kremlin today are expressing shock over President Obama’s latest move towards instituting a reign of martial law in the United States they warn will complete the militarization of America and destroy, once and for all, this once great free Nation.
Raising the alarm of the Kremlin about the United States latest move towards totalitarianism was...." the top).

For shame, jellybean.
Originally Posted by aisy_Day View Post
What's with the tiny, eye-straining font?

It was copied without crediting the author which is lying and stealing. More that 20% of the original was used which violates the Fair Use Act and puts this site in violation of the law.
Those are slanderous and unfounded accusations. I have been informed this Sorcha Faal posts on a site that expresses hostility towards the Christian faith, and has, therefore, been blackballed by CF. I have taken the Christian liberty of removing the offensive hyperlink from your post in my reply.

Given the recycling of stories and the global nature of the internet, articles of this nature comprise what is increasingly known as the public domain. It has become increasingly difficult to ascertain what is original in the collective consciousness we call cyberspace--a place without borders or jurisdictions.

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Old 13th January 2010, 02:23 PM
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They said that Obama was going to take away their guns.

It never happened.

They said that Obama was going to use H1N1 as an excuse to institute "concentration camps" for those that disagree with him.

It never happened.

Those who spout conspiracy theories about Obama don't exactly have a great track record for the truth.
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Originally Posted by jellybean99 View Post

Given the recycling of stories and the global nature of the internet, articles of this nature comprise what is increasingly known as the public domain. It has become increasingly difficult to ascertain what is original in the collective consciousness know as cyberspace--a place without borders or jurisdictions.
You realize that this doesn't justify not citing your sources, even public domain sources, right?
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Old 14th January 2010, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jellybean99 View Post
Those are slanderous and unfounded accusations.{snip}
Here's a 1000 blessings. Go buy yourself a sense of irony.

Originally Posted by Ringo84 View Post
They said that Obama was going to take away their guns.

It never happened.

They said that Obama was going to use H1N1 as an excuse to institute "concentration camps" for those that disagree with him.

It never happened.

Those who spout conspiracy theories about Obama don't exactly have a great track record for the truth.
Ringo
I consumed a lot of wingnut Christian media back in the 90s. The claims about black, unmarked helicopters, concentration camps and the New World Order sound painfully familiar.
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I consumed a lot of wingnut Christian media back in the 90s. The claims about black, unmarked helicopters, concentration camps and the New World Order sound painfully familiar.
The paranoid ranting doesn't change that much; only the target of such paranoia changes.
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