Was The Flood local?

You claimed that Noah writing the flood account was 'basic doctrine'. How about providing evidence for your claim, rather than simply showing problems with the Mosaic authorship of the Torah instead?

Sure --- just as soon as you show me evidence that the Flood was local.

In fact, your allegorical interpretation (18) has Noah's Ark:

1. Being built in Mesopotamia.
2. Being guided (by God) out to sea.
3. Being left at sea while this local flood rages.
4. Then being brought back to Mesopotamia, and lifted up into the mountains of Ararat.

Can you explain that?

Sure, the Hebrew erets is translated 'the land' more often than it is translated 'the earth'. There you go, evidence for a local flood. Now show your evidence Noah wrote the flood account.

Personally I think the ages of the patriarchs are figurative because Moses tells us people really live to 70 or 60 in Psalm 90. He included himself in the 70 or 80 even though his father Amram is said to have lived to 137 and he is said to have lived to 120 himself.

The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

Interesting digression, now can we get back to some evidence for your basic doctrine of Noah writing the flood account. It sounds from your ducking and diving that you don't actually have any.

That's pretty poor evidence if you ask me; but since you made an effort, I'll cut you some slack.

What's that have to do with it? You mentioned two people who lived to be older than 70.

Let's look at Psalm 90:Moses knew ahead of time his people had 40 years or less to live (depending on when he wrote this Psalm).

Originally Posted by Psalm 90:10

The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

603,550 people leave Egypt --- Moses mentions 2 by name living beyond that age, and you say that's evidence that he was speaking allegorically (or figuratively)?

Moses literally saw almost 2,000,000 people die within the space of 40 years, and because he, his father, Joshua and Caleb lived beyond that average age --- Moses is speaking figuratively???

I don't think so.I'll tell you what I tell everybody else that thinks they know everything I ever said here.

You're more than welcome to go through all my posts, which now number almost 1,100,000, and see how wrong you are.

It should be easy, just eliminate all my posts in the numbering threads, all my QV's, all my repetitions, all my challenges, all my begging for answers, and that should pare it down to about 50 or so posts containing basic doctrine.

However, I'll be more than happy to help you out, since that's what ducking and diving does to a person:

QV please: 65, 300, 351 (you even took part in these).

Does that mean you will give us the evidence for your claim Noah wrote the flood account?

Some evidence that Noah writing the flood account is basic doctrine would be nice too.

I presume since you are arguing against a figurative interpretation, you take the long lifespans of the Patriarchs literally, so when did the long life spans stop and 70 or 80 become the norm?

No.

Click on my picture, then click on "About Me", then read the last line under "My identity".

Repeat as necessary.

have a feeling you know this already, but for the sake of the lurkers (not you), I'll point out that had the [TE-denying] Original Sin not occurred, there would be no lifespans at all.

In other words, we would live physically forever.

When God created Adam and Eve, their genetic makeup was [TE-denying] perfect.

Then, when the Fall occurred, the gene pool was subjected to corruption, just like everything else.

At that point, "lifespaning" entered the universe, and people started dying after so many years.

The lifespan was severely shortened after the Flood, when the [TE-denying] Water Canopy was sent to the earth as rain, and the earth lost its tropical climate, and became a polar planet.

By Moses' time, the average lifespans were down to 70-80 years.

Of course, if all this sounds like bologna, then you'll make a good Theistic Evolutionist, or its close cousin, a good Atheist.

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Which line? That a bus worker led you to the Lord, or your sig "GOD DID IT --- CASE CLOSED"?