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Old 20th November 2009, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by didaskalos View Post
It is so easy for things that you say and do to be taken wrongly. Have you ever expressed love only to have it taken as condesention or sarcasm?
Very difficult to deal with. Pains of rejection.
If you walk in Love, their rejection is irrelevant. Our Command was to Love them. Not to be Loved by them. Expect them to hate you - and realize they do so because they hated Christ first - which puts us in EXCELLENT Company!

When you are accused unfairly, it too is irrelevant. Perfected Love casts out all fear. There is simply no reason to be afraid. Stick to the truth and give praise and thanks to the Lord for the fiery darts that come against you, knowing that with Love there is no way you can be harmed - even if they bring stones against you like they did Paul and Stephen. You will be mocked and lied about - cast that care on Christ for it's not your care to bear. Your care is to remain consistent in your Love and to continue the mission given to you by God.

We are not here to be liked by the world. If the world likes us, we have a problem. We are here to bear the Gospel of Grace to a world that doesn't want it. Keep in mind always that you are accepted by God - there is nothing that anyone who is NOT God can do to change that or make that less. Let them hate you then and feel nothing regarding that except for praise and thanksgiving to God for letting us remain here to minister to those His Son died for.

Additionally - they only lie about you because you've given them no dirt to use against you. Be blameless in your conduct before them and make it so that if they are to accuse you, they'll have to lie to do so. Praise the Lord!!!

Who it comes from is also irrelevant. We will be estranged from mother and father and wife and brother and sister and children and friends over the course of our ministry - and Yeshua said so. Accept it and keep moving forward, casting the care of that on Christ and not returning hate and pain for their rejection, but giving praise and thanks that your name is written in the Book of Life. In the end, WE are Family - we all have our mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and children and friends right here in our fellowship - where Blood is thicker than womb water!
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Old 20th November 2009, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeVan View Post
If you walk in Love, their rejection is irrelevant. Our Command was to Love them. Not to be Loved by them. Expect them to hate you - and realize they do so because they hated Christ first - which puts us in EXCELLENT Company!

When you are accused unfairly, it too is irrelevant. Perfected Love casts out all fear. There is simply no reason to be afraid. Stick to the truth and give praise and thanks to the Lord for the fiery darts that come against you, knowing that with Love there is no way you can be harmed - even if they bring stones against you like they did Paul and Stephen. You will be mocked and lied about - cast that care on Christ for it's not your care to bear. Your care is to remain consistent in your Love and to continue the mission given to you by God.

We are not here to be liked by the world. If the world likes us, we have a problem. We are here to bear the Gospel of Grace to a world that doesn't want it. Keep in mind always that you are accepted by God - there is nothing that anyone who is NOT God can do to change that or make that less. Let them hate you then and feel nothing regarding that except for praise and thanksgiving to God for letting us remain here to minister to those His Son died for.

Additionally - they only lie about you because you've given them no dirt to use against you. Be blameless in your conduct before them and make it so that if they are to accuse you, they'll have to lie to do so. Praise the Lord!!!

Who it comes from is also irrelevant. We will be estranged from mother and father and wife and brother and sister and children and friends over the course of our ministry - and Yeshua said so. Accept it and keep moving forward, casting the care of that on Christ and not returning hate and pain for their rejection, but giving praise and thanks that your name is written in the Book of Life. In the end, WE are Family - we all have our mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and children and friends right here in our fellowship - where Blood is thicker than womb water!
Yes, and I find that when I am hurting from the way the world treats me, it is always helpful to turn to the Scriptures. I speak them out and feel the Lord carrying me...

Jeremiah 31:9,13 GN "I will guide them to streams of water on a smooth road where they will not stumble. Then the young women will dance and be happy, and men, young and old, will rejoice. I will comfort them and turn their mourning into joy, their sorrow into gladness."

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Old 20th November 2009, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Shepherd1 View Post
Yes, and I find that when I am hurting from the way the world treats me, it is always helpful to turn to the Scriptures. I speak them out and feel the Lord carrying me...

Jeremiah 31:9,13 GN "I will guide them to streams of water on a smooth road where they will not stumble. Then the young women will dance and be happy, and men, young and old, will rejoice. I will comfort them and turn their mourning into joy, their sorrow into gladness."

God bless
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Jeremiah 31:9,13 GN "I will guide them to streams of water on a smooth road where they will not stumble. Then the young women will dance and be happy, and men, young and old, will rejoice. I will comfort them and turn their mourning into joy, their sorrow into gladness."

This is an awesome scripture..
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Old 20th November 2009, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by peacechild4 View Post
Jeremiah 31:9,13 GN "I will guide them to streams of water on a smooth road where they will not stumble. Then the young women will dance and be happy, and men, young and old, will rejoice. I will comfort them and turn their mourning into joy, their sorrow into gladness."

This is an awesome scripture..
Yes, God is good!
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Old 22nd November 2009, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by peacechild4 View Post
Oh wow that is another scripture I am standing on.. blessed be the name of the LORD!! Thank you... 'What God has joined together let no man separate."
Hi peacechild4

I've been trying to locate this thread so that I could post these additional scriptures for you to stand on in your situation if you like. (You probably are already standing on them, but here they are just in case.)

Proverbs 31:11 TNIV "Her husband has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value."

Proverbs 31:25 TNIV "She is clothed with strength and dignity; she can laugh at the days to come."

Proverbs 31:28-31 TNIV "Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her: Many women do noble things, but you surpass them all. Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised. Honor her for all that her hands have done, and let her works bring her praise at the city gate." Amen

I will be standing with you believing all these things over you and your family, in Jesus name, Amen.

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Originally Posted by didaskalos View Post
It is so easy for things that you say and do to be taken wrongly. Have you ever expressed love only to have it taken as condesention or sarcasm?
Very difficult to deal with. Pains of rejection.
Yes. I deal with this more than I'd like to. I find it is not worth defending myself by trying to explain what I meant even when my reason for doing so is for the benefit of the other. If a person won't listen it causes only more strife. However if you can get a brother to listen you have won them. A brother offended is harder to be won than to take a city. Just keep loving forgiving and praying for them.
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Originally Posted by didaskalos View Post
It is so easy for things that you say and do to be taken wrongly. Have you ever expressed love only to have it taken as condesention or sarcasm?
Very difficult to deal with. Pains of rejection.
Matthew 11:28 GN "Come to me, all of you who are tired from carrying heavy loads, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke and put it on you, and learn from me, because I am gentle and humble in spirit; and you will find rest. For the yoke I will give you is easy, and the load I will put on you is light." God bless...
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I am currently in a situaton where myself and a small group of Word believing friends are being spoken about in a very negative and untrue way. People within the fellowship are gossiping about us behind our backs and slandering our reputations. It is very hard to be Christ like in that situation but every morning and throughout the day I have to say I will not react to them in a similar way. Praise God, the situation is going to be addressed by church leaders but until then I just have to keep praying and loving these people.

All that has been said about forgiveness above is really helpful.
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Originally Posted by heatherfb View Post
I am currently in a situaton where myself and a small group of Word believing friends are being spoken about in a very negative and untrue way. People within the fellowship are gossiping about us behind our backs and slandering our reputations. It is very hard to be Christ like in that situation but every morning and throughout the day I have to say I will not react to them in a similar way. Praise God, the situation is going to be addressed by church leaders but until then I just have to keep praying and loving these people.

All that has been said about forgiveness above is really helpful.
That reminds you of this:

1 Corinthians 11:17-22
17 Now in giving these instructions I do not praise you, since you come together not for the better but for the worse. 18 For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you. 20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper. 21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; and one is hungry and another is drunk. 22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.

It was surely hurtful for those deemed less worthy by their brethren - but be of good cheer for your heart is in the right place in loving them anyway and praying for them as we are to do for brethren who are falling to carnal influences. They don't know what they are doing and the objective of the enemy is to divide - the objective of Love is to unite even in the face of adversity. I pray your Elders will be effective in planting seeds of correction and bringing the two groups back into a tight communion!
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