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St Paul Florensky

St. Paul Florensky

I was just re-reading the excellent book "Salt of the Earth, An Encounter with a Holy Russian Elder: Isidore of Gethsemane Hermitage". The introduction gives a short overview of the life and martyrdom of St Florensky that I found very moving. Anywho I wanted to post this part from the intro:

" 'Orthodox' literally means 'right glorification'. In Florensky's view, however, being 'right' may have nothing at all to do with being Orthodox or being in the Church. A person may take precautions to be perfectly 'right' merely out of insecurity, while faith in Christ remains lacking. In essence , being Orthodox actually means saving one's soul and changing one's heart, making use of the 'right' forms in order to assit in this. It does not mean being right. As Florensky stated: 'Half belief, which is afraid of falling into unbelief, fearfully clings to the forms of religious life. Not capable of seeing in them the crystallized realities of Spirit and Truth, it evaluates them as juridical norms of law. It has an external attitude towards them, and values them not as windows to the light of Christ, but as the conditional requirements of external authority. The Christian consciousness, however, knows that the established ways of the Church are not accidental, and are offered by her as favorable conditions for salvation.' "

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When was he declared a saint?
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When was he declared a saint?
This is what the intro to the book said:

"As one who died for standing up for his Faith, Florensky was listed with the Russian New Martyrs and Confessors who were canonized in 1981. His name is to be found on the icon of the New Martyrs which was used in the glorification service.

Thus, for all Orthodox Christians who, like Fr Paul himself, are free before God and are not hindered by political fears, he is Saint Paul Florensky"

It was translated by the Saint Herman of Alaska Brotherhood and Abbot Herman and Fr Damascene wrote the intro.
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Orthodox wiki has his feast day listed as Dec 15th

December 15 - OrthodoxWiki

Orthodox.net lists it as Jan 9 though
http://www.orthodox.net/menaion/january.html
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Here is the book if anyone wants to read it. St Florensky does such an excellent job describing the life and sanctity of Elder Isidore in it.

Salt of the Earth

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Elder Isidore (1814-1908) was a vivid representative of the tradition of eldership (starchestvo) in Holy Russia. Radiant with Christ-like love and childlike simplicity, he lived in another world yet kept both feet firmly planted on the ground. He was one of those whom Christ called the salt of the earth--a repository of the rare, otherworldly savor of ancient Christianity. A prophetic witness for the Church, he foretold the Russian Revolution and the second age of the catacombs.


In Salt of the Earth, the life and personality of Elder Isidore have been captured with remarkable clarity by the Elder's spiritual son, New Martyr Paul Florensky (1882-1937). Called the "Russian Leonardo da Vinci," Florensky was a fascinating figure unique in Russian history. A master of the most varied disciplines, he was at once a religious philosopher, poet, linguist, art historian, type designer, physicist, astronomer, mathematician, electrical engineer, biologist, botanist, and inventor. During the first decades of the twentieth century, he made several important scientific discoveries and wrote essays which anticipated the development of cybernetics (computers).

When describing Elder Isidore in Salt of the Earth, Florensky strikingly combines the analytical approach of a scientist with the "seeing heart" of a Christian mystic. He is able to take the reader directly into Elder Isidore's world, so that by the time we finish the book, we feel that the Elder is already a dear friend. Filled with humor and warmth as well as metaphysical understanding on the part of the author, Salt of the Earth is a tour de force among modern Christian spiritual writings, in the same class as The Way of a Pilgrim.
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This is what the intro to the book said:

"As one who died for standing up for his Faith, Florensky was listed with the Russian New Martyrs and Confessors who were canonized in 1981. His name is to be found on the icon of the New Martyrs which was used in the glorification service.

Thus, for all Orthodox Christians who, like Fr Paul himself, are free before God and are not hindered by political fears, he is Saint Paul Florensky"

It was translated by the Saint Herman of Alaska Brotherhood and Abbot Herman and Fr Damascene wrote the intro.
I will check with my priest on this one. I have yet to hear anyone refer to Fr. Pavel Florensky as a glorified saint.
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Orthodox wiki has his feast day listed as Dec 15th

December 15 - OrthodoxWiki

Orthodox.net lists it as Jan 9 though
Russian Orthodox Christian Menaion Calendar for January

OrthoWiki also specifically says he is not a saint. That there was thoughts initially that ROCOR would have canonized him but that they have stated that was not the case.
Not saying that he shouldn't be... and it seems to be that some jurisdictions are recognizing him as a Saint, however, it doesn't seem to say when he was canonized. MP and OCA does not have him listed in their dates.
"During the last decades of the twentieth century statements had appeared noting a recognition of Fr. Pavel as a saint and new martyr. This action was often attributed to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad. However, Metr. Vitaly, then First Hierarch of ROCOR, noted firmly that no such action was ever considered by ROCOR, and that no such glorification had been made."

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OrthoWiki also specifically says he is not a saint.
Why does he have a feast day then? It's strange that one article has a feast day for him and calls him "new martyr" and another states that he wasn't a saint on the exact same webpage. I guess thats the nature of wikis sometimes though .
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