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15th November 2009, 10:20 AM
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I'm looking for some insight. I've always wondered why sometimes in the bible it says Holy Ghost and sometimes it says Holy Spirit. I recently heard it said it's because when Holy Spirit is used there is an inward manisfestation and when Holy Ghost is used there is an outward visible sign that something happens and that while they are the same they are two different manifestations. Any thoughts or insight would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm looking for some insight. I've always wondered why sometimes in the bible it says Holy Ghost and sometimes it says Holy Spirit. I recently heard it said it's because when Holy Spirit is used there is an inward manisfestation and when Holy Ghost is used there is an outward visible sign that something happens and that while they are the same they are two different manifestations. Any thoughts or insight would be greatly appreciated.
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15th November 2009, 09:54 PM
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Reps: 60,652,798,006,522,576 (power: 60,652,798,006,525) | | Originally Posted by Tee_w I think it depends largley on what Bible you read. Christians who were brought up on the KJV have tended to say "Holy Ghost". Those who read more modern Bibles tend to say, "Holy Spirit". A Hebrew reader would tend to say, " the Spirit of Holiness."
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Thank you for your answer I like the way the Spirit of Holiness sounds. I always say Holy Spirit but my bible says both. I just wonder why. |
13th September 2010, 03:13 PM
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Reps: 281,843,501,459,720,960 (power: 281,843,501,459,728) | | Originally Posted by onetinsoldier Hello
I'm looking for some insight. I've always wondered why sometimes in the bible it says Holy Ghost and sometimes it says Holy Spirit. I recently heard it said it's because when Holy Spirit is used there is an inward manisfestation and when Holy Ghost is used there is an outward visible sign that something happens and that while they are the same they are two different manifestations. Any thoughts or insight would be greatly appreciated.
There are some Greek interlinears online you can look these things up in. Translators have a number of words to choose from in English when they translate from the Greek.
Way back when, I suppose 'ghost' meant 'spirit.' Now it means the spirit of a dead person. But the name "Holy Ghost" dates way back. If we were to translate it into a more modern way, we would say "Holy Spirit." If I am not mistaken "Ghost" and "Spirit" are being used as translations of the same Greek word.
I have not noticed 'Ghost' in the NIV. My guess is they use it to prevent accusations of plagarism and copyright infringement. Just imagine having to translate all the verse in the Bible without copying another copyrighted translation. You would have to change some of the words around, not out a desire to translate faithfully, but just so as not to infringe on the property rights of other translations.
I think our intellectual property rights laws have gone way too far. But that is another issue. |
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by onetinsoldier I'm still looking for understanding on this. It's been a while since I posted it. Maybe some one else will see it now and have more information. Thanks in advance.
Yep, LinkH is right! They speak of the same thing, same Person, same Spirit. Holy Ghost is really just an older English way of translating the words. Newer Bibles say "Spirit" because "Ghost" has a more sinister, spooky meaning than it did in the 1600s. Back then, "Ghost" could mean soul or spirit, but now we have all these scary ghost stories and movies haha. So, to help make the meaning clearer, newer Bible translations say Holy Spirit. For what it's worth, the Greek word can also mean "wind," so when the Wind rushes through the room at Pentecost, it was literally the Spirit who was present among them!  |
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Reps: 60,652,798,006,522,576 (power: 60,652,798,006,525) | | Originally Posted by Cable Yep, LinkH is right! They speak of the same thing, same Person, same Spirit. Holy Ghost is really just an older English way of translating the words. Newer Bibles say "Spirit" because "Ghost" has a more sinister, spooky meaning than it did in the 1600s. Back then, "Ghost" could mean soul or spirit, but now we have all these scary ghost stories and movies haha. So, to help make the meaning clearer, newer Bible translations say Holy Spirit. For what it's worth, the Greek word can also mean "wind," so when the Wind rushes through the room at Pentecost, it was literally the Spirit who was present among them!
I kinda thought of like that for a while. I looked at all the verses with both in them again. I think I see some things. I agree they are the same Spirit. I think I see how they might be used in different ways. I did notice Holy Spirit is only used one time by itself in a verse. I haven't figured out if that means anything. I like your reference to the Pentecost. It'd be rad to experience Pentecost the way they did in Acts. | |
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