Would anyone in this forum (pro-choice Christians, I mean) be adverse to a woman going to a clinic and having a doctor with a medical license perform an abortion in a sterile environment with the proper equipment? Probably not.
But what about a woman who simply uses the old coat hanger trick in her own home, and then dumps what comes of it in a dumpster nearby? At any point in her pregnancy?
Would you have a problem with it then?
What about a woman who gets to the delivery room, and then, before actually moving into the final stages of labor, tells her doctor she's changed her mind, and wants her baby dead?
No problem with licensed doctors performing abortion in a sterile environment...that's the ideal.
The coat hanger....I would hope that no woman would take that kind of risk with her life and health. It's dangerous. I also am not comfortable with someone amputating their own limbs to say a copay. The issue is not the woman procuring an abortion...but the woman risking her health in such a manner. If a safe medical abortion is available to her...I don't understand how someone in their right mind would opt for the coat hanger method.
A woman in labor....the safest way to end the pregnancy is to deliver the fetus. So a doctor would be helping the patient by delivering, not by changing course and performing an abortion. And a doctor should be concerned about the health of their patient.
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But what about a woman who simply uses the old coat hanger trick in her own home, and then dumps what comes of it in a dumpster nearby? At any point in her pregnancy?
Would you have a problem with it then?
Of course we have a problem with that, that's why we are pro-choice in the first place! We want to keep abortion legal so women don't do that.
What about a woman who gets to the delivery room, and then, before actually moving into the final stages of labor, tells her doctor she's changed her mind, and wants her baby dead?
What's the difference?
Yes, I would have a problem with that because it's post viability. But why did you bring this up? The vast majority of women who go full term do not want an abortion, not to mention that doing one at that time is illegal in the states. It's HIGHLY unlikely that any doctor or midwife would ever hear that request, and since it is more dangerous at that point, like b.hopeful said, no ethical doctor would agree to it anyway.
Also, there is a HUGE difference between a legal abortion at 12 weeks or less(when the vast majority take place) an a third trimester abortion. The biggest one to me is level of development. When a fetus is full term, it has all it's necessary organs and can survive without the woman. At 12 weeks, the fetus is not fully developed and cannot survive outside. I do not believe that abortion is murder until after the fetuses lungs are developed enough for it to survive outside the womb. Therefore, I have no problem with first trimester abortion.
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The coat hanger abortion is dangerous, not sterile, and potentially dangerous to one's health. That is why I oppose coat hanger abortions. That is also why I believe that abortion needs to remain legal so that women can get safe abortions.
A woman in labor....the safest way to end the pregnancy is to deliver the fetus. So a doctor would be helping the patient by delivering, not by changing course and performing an abortion. And a doctor should be concerned about the health of their patient.
You see a baby cant survive outside the womb on its own anymore than a 12 week old foetus. Sure it can breath but it cant survive. Abortion isnt about just breathing but about a life not being terminated. The argument about the foetus being viable outside the womb isnt viable.
You see a baby cant survive outside the womb on its own anymore than a 12 week old foetus. Sure it can breath but it cant survive. Abortion isnt about just breathing but about a life not being terminated. The argument about the foetus being viable outside the womb isnt viable.
What? A baby can survive outside the womb. You can give it to someone else. You can't give a fetus to someone else. Hence this makes it not viable. You cannot equate the two, the argument that that a 12 week old fetus is not viable just like a baby is asinine.
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What? A baby can survive outside the womb. You can give it to someone else. You can't give a fetus to someone else. Hence this makes it not viable. You cannot equate the two, the argument that that a 12 week old fetus is not viable just like a baby is asinine.
a baby cant survive outside the womb on its own. If you are now offering that variation just to attempt to justify abortion then stop abortion and give all subsequent babies to someone else.
The baby and the foetus are viable.
What's the difference? 
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