More than one resurrection?

Rev. 20:6 (KJV)
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Resurrection: anastasis,an-as'-tas-is; from Greek 450 (anistemi); a standing up again, i.e. (literal) a resurrection from death (individual, genitive or by implication [its author]), or (figurative) a (moral) recovery (of spiritual truth) :- raised to life again, resurrection, rise from the dead, that should rise, rising again.
Anistemi,an-is'-tay-mee; from Greek 303 (ana) and Greek 2476 (histemi); to stand up (literal or figurative, transitive or intransitive) :- arise, lift up, raise up (again), rise (again), stand up (-right).
Lets compare this to what Apostle Paul wrote;
1 Thes. 4:17 (KJV)
Then we, which are alive and remain, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Caught up: harpazo,har-pad'-zo; from a derivative of Greek 138 (haireomai); to seize in various applications :- catch away, up, pluck, pull, take by force.

Sort of close…arise, lift up, raise up, rise up, stand up… but not at all the same in complete action…seize in various applications, catch away, up, pluck, pull, take by force.
Apostle John did not say
Rev. 20:6 (KJV)
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first harpazo: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
He said:
Rev. 20:6 (KJV)
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first anastasis/anistemi: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Let’s all make special note of what Apostle Paul also said…

#1
1 Thes. 4:15-18 (KJV)
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord
Lord Jesus told him this

#2 and this is the kicker:
“That we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord”

We, which are alive and remain…
Every single solitary soul that comes with Lord Jesus in Rev 20 have been martyred “and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, for the word of God, which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands”
NOT one single shred of anyone here being resurrected who are alive and remain… you cannot resurrect someone who is alive and remains…

#3
Verse 16 “The dead in Christ shall rise first”
No explanation needed


#4
Verse 17 Then we, who are alive and remain, shall be caught up together with them

We who alive and remain, shall be harpazo together with them…
Same action, same time…
Harpazo is not some interchangeable Greek street slang for anastasis or anistemi.

#5

Verse 17…“Shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air

Shall be harpazo (not anastasis or anistemi) together with them in the clouds…

Not crowds…
Clouds: nephele,nef-el'-ay; from Greek 3509 (nephos); properly cloudiness, i.e. (concrete) a cloud: - cloud.
This is not some metaphor; a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them.
Nephele is not some Greek street slang for great miltitude polus ochlos,

#6

Verse 17… “So shall we ever be with the Lord”

And finally
#7
Verse 18
“Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”

What words?
What words, the words that Holy Spirit, Who knew the words that Apostle Paul was going to write down
What words did Apostle Paul use to describe this one single action that he said was directly from the Lord?
This scene of a Word of Wisdom, future event that he wrote to the Thessalonians…


Did he say great multitude? Not even one time.

Why not?
Is this the same thing that he was talking about to the Corinthians when he did in fact use resurrection in verse 42?

Lets look at this and see… the easy, simple none man wisdom, no theory way and see if it is?
1 Thes. 4:16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

“Dead shall rise…”

Lets define the word “rise” anistemi,an-is'-tay-mee; from Greek 303 (ana) and Greek 2476 (histemi); to stand up (literal or figurative, transitive or intransitive) :- arise, lift up, raise up (again), rise (again), stand up (-right).
There it is…so the dead in Christ are resurrected

Then what…?
1 Thes. 4:17 (KJV)
Then we, which are alive and remain, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

A resurrection and a harpazo at almost the same time, back to back, in the same event is what is being told to the believers in Thessalonica…

Ok the one thing that we need to come to agreement on is this single part called the “last trump” that Apostle Paul mentions in I Cor 15…

That could mean more than one thing and it might be that it is the literal “last trump” or it could be the “last trump” for the gentiles…He was writing the Gentiles correct? Or…

Is Holy Spirit the same GOD of Apostle John?

Did He give specific directions to Apostle John as what to write down as well?

IF Apostle John saw people who were alive and remained in Rev 20 he would have mentioned them, he did not do so…
He clearly identifies anyone and everyone, be it the Beings, the Elders or any other that are in whatever he is seeing. He does not miss a skip and even when he was once about to write something down that he heard; he was told to not write it…He does not say anything about anyone who is “alive and remains” in Rev 20…
So who ever it is that is placing all of us in Revelation 20 as being harpazoed and resurrected together with the souls of them, which were beheaded, and that the “harpazo” also takes place in Rev 20, are not correct and need to look again …

We will be in one of several groups that do in fact go with GOD.

We are either dead in Christ, which will be resurrected with the “harpazo” group and we go to heaven…

The above and below statements are the same group.

We are either alive and remain and are “harpazoed” with those who get resurrected before us and we go with Lord Jesus. (The Red Moon Harpazo)…

We either are the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, for the testimony, which they held:

OF which thee above souls in Rev 6 can also be included with the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, for the word of God, which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands
BUT never could the ones who are alive and remain be included in either of these last two groups unless they meet the being slain (martyred) or beheaded (martyred) mandate…
And NONE of us could ever be confused with one the 144,000

The “first resurrection” that is being written about in Rev 20 is the first resurrection after the Great Tribulation and should not be confused with the resurrection and harpazo that takes place during the consequences of the 6th seal…

They are TWO entirely different groups of people.

We do not ALL share in the same types of service to GOD Almighty…

Not here and not later

One group goes before the throne of GOD (see Rev 7).

One rules with Lord Jesus during the 1,000 year Sabbath.(see Rev 20)

The 144,000 do an entirely different service unto our God…(See Rev 7 and beyond)

Each and every one of these groups is the Body of Christ, not all of them are feet and not all of them are an eye, ear or nose…

Each specific group serves GOD Almighty according to where they are given to serve.

I Thess. 4 and Rev. 20 are two entirely different events and groups of peoples

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2 Peter 3:9 (KJV)
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long-suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

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Vinsight4u,

excellent posts using scripture to back up your belief.

hismessenger

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Yes, there are 2 resurrections: the resurrection of the martyrs in Rev. 20:4 (coming soon), and the resurrection of everyone else a thousand years later (Rev. 20:11-15)

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