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Kiss Days shortened

Matthew 24:22 (KJV)
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Mark 13:20 (KJV)
And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

koloboo, kol-ob-o'-o; from a derivative of the base of Greek 2849 (kolazo);
(figurative) abridge :- shorten.

kolazo, kol-ad'-zo; from kolos (dwarf); properly to curtail

Abridge: to reduce in scope: DIMINISH to shorten in duration or extent *CONDENSE

Curtail: to make less by or as if by cutting away some part

When Lord Jesus said this, did He mean that the actual 24-hour time of a day would be literally shortened?
According to the references in the Greek for the word “shortened” and the definitions according to Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary,
NO.

It is just like most everything else that GOD has done in the past, the relativity of normal cause and effect make way for His Word to be completed naturally.
For instance He caused the water to turn to blood in Egypt. That in turn set in motion each and almost every other plague that He brought subsequently, following in time, order, or place…

To put things in perspective, let's start with the computer sitting on your desk -- the computer you use on a day-to-day basis to browse the Internet, handle spreadsheets, create documents, etc. Most people have something like a Pentium computer running Windows, or a Macintosh. A computer like this can execute approximately 100 million instructions per second. Your particular machine might be twice that fast or half that fast, but that's the ballpark.


http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question54.htm

This combined with the mode of transportation based on what they used 250 years ago to today…a horse ridden with proper care could transport a person approximately 20 miles a day, 20 miles more if you really spurred it and then if the animal didn’t die from exhaustion that night you might be able to get 10 miles the next day…
In comparison to the speeds and distances that we can travel today, for instance; how long does it take for a plane to travel from New York to Arizona is around a four hours flight.

Of course they did not have planes back 250 years ago, so jet propulsion is one factor… but lets go by ground; What is the driving distance from New York to Los Angeles

2,776 mi – about 1 day 17 hours. So going 20 miles a day for 2,776 miles would take 138.8 days 250 years ago…
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_driving_distance_from_New_York_to_Los_Angeles

The days we live in have become abridged, curtailed, diminished and condensed by the very technology that GOD knew we would have in these days…

GOD has shortened the days; in that He knew that His creation would eventually, naturally cause it to happen…like causing the water to turn into blood.

This prophecy is fulfilled right now, today…
This is just one more sign of what part of the end times that we live in…The END times.

What do you believe?
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Revelation 9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.


I see the shortening of time relating to the great tribulation of Satan. He shortened it to a five month period...same amount of time that the "waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days" in the flood of Noah.
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I have no support for this: I think that the '7 year tribulation plan' was cut in 1/2 by Jesus' ministry.
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IT is possible for the earth to have its revolutions shortened, by come cataclysmic event that slows the earths reveolution.
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It comes from Daniel where all magicians were to be executed.
Only the direct intervention of God would save him and in the process establish him as someone to keep tabs on.
The meaning is that of nothing stopping God's plan or his keeping his people until until his purpose comes to pass, meaning that the elect will also be kept through the time of judgment.
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have a great week y'all


Rev. 22:20-21 (KJV)
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
[21] The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.


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When Lord Jesus said this, did He mean that the actual 24-hour time of a day would be literally shortened?
Instead of that, in Matthew 24:22, Jesus could have meant that if the coming tribulation went on indefinitely, no flesh would survive on the earth, but that God has already determined (shortened) how long the tribulation will last so that some elect people will still be alive on the earth at the second coming of Jesus Christ immediately after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31, 1 Thessalonians 4:17).
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THAT'S IT?

4 people ?
So everyone else agrees with one of these four ?

Isn't there another interpretation out there for us to consider?

Just stopped by to get more information from others here...
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Originally Posted by B1inHim View Post
This prophecy is fulfilled right now, today…
This is just one more sign of what part of the end times that we live in…The END times.

What do you believe?
What i think it means is that if Jesus never returns that all men will die, humans will become extinct by their own doing. However Christ is going to return destroy the wicked, resurrect the just, and translate the remnant into immortal bodies. Saving us form our own destruction.
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IT is possible for the earth to have its revolutions shortened, by come cataclysmic event that slows the earths reveolution.
(Did you mean to say "it is possible for the earth to have its revolutions shortened by come cataclysmic event that SPEEDS the earth's revolution"? For a slowing of the earth's revolution would increase the length of each day, instead of shortening the length of each day.)
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