masturbation when your husband is unable

what do you think of masturbation when your husband has erectile dysfunction and does not get help for it? I let him touch and kiss me but it's ultimately not the same

Biblically and practically I see no problem.

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There is no rule against masturbation in Scripture. Just make sure not to have adulterous thoughts behind it.

The best way is to stay away from sexual thoughts completely. But that is difficult for people to do.

Intercourse is something special. But sexual activity is wider than that. Many couples facing that problem engage in other sexual activitiy, including mutual masturbation, and feel quite fulfileld by their continued sexual activity. It's certainly better to enagage in some mutual activity than solitary sex if both of you can agree that's where it's at.

John
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OS is a viable option but that is not the subject of the thread.

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Deu 23 10 If one of your men is unclean because of a nocturnal emission, he is to go outside the camp and stay there. 11 But as evening approaches he is to wash himself, and at sunset he may return to the camp.

Even unintentional emission is unclean, or sin, outside of marriage. And if it is within marriage and doesn't tend to childbearing:

Gen 38 9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so he put him to death also.

So then, the only biblical way to release if one can not contain is within marriage with the intent to procreate.

We are not Jewish nor are we under the OT Law.

Sex is for pleasure, procreation, guarding against sin, and unity. Masterbation is perfectly acceptable.


Onan's sin was in not giving an heir to his brother by sleeping with his sister-in-law.

Archaic and unbiblical legalism concerning this issue has been built on faulty exegesis and misapplication of key Scriptures.

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Do not twist my words and make false accusations. I ask you to prayerfully consider what you have just said and ask the Lord to help you repent.

The OT is valuable because it is part of God's inspired and inerrant Word. What is important is to properly understand and apply it.

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my hope is to foster a better understanding of biblical truths.

IN relation to the Law (all Scripture is from the NASB)

Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM."

Gal 5:1 It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery.



As to the issue of sex....do an in-depth study of Song of Solomon. I suggest finding a resource that helps you understand Jewish poetry and imagery. The idea that sex is purely for having kids is unreasonable and unbiblical. Of all the reasons God gave us sex He devoted a whole book to sex for pleasure, as opposed to the other reasons receiving passing thoughts in tidbits here and there. That alone should tell us something.

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Just a note: I agree with you. I sometimes point out that the point of sex is to have kids, but not to that crazy idea as some take it. (That people should not enjoy it or something, or that using birth control is sinful.)

(Just as the point of union of man and woman is to 'produce godly offspring'. Some have clearly taken this and warped it into some unnatural, by doing such things as banning the use of condoms or birth control.)



OP:
On the unclean law:

We are clean under Christ, so that is that. Many bodily functions are ugly, if one thinks about it, or puts it that way. OTOH, it is amazing the body can digest food, gain power to move our complex body with, and then discharge remnants of it. Farting, for instance, some feel very ashamed about, but as a great psychologist once pointed out... it is actually an amazing physical function that that part of the body has the capability to effectively separate solid material, liquids, and gas to actually expel the gas.


On the guy who pulled out... I agree with this poster. It wasn't that he pulled out that was the sin.


Masturbation is very common, if God wanted to declare it bad, He very well could have directly. He did not.