Italian judge convicts 23 CIA agents

We see the rule of law is depending on who you are. I do not believe in diplomatic immunity, except for possibly petty crimes that the visitor might not realize was a crime.(parking tickets being one.) Diplomatic immunity means people are above the law. I do not support it on our soil, nor other countries doing it for us.

One note: How hard is it to convict people when they aren't there to defend themselves?

The taking of known terrorists by the military is the war on terror. We get them when we know where they are, rather then wait to go through the channels to get the ok, and the person gets away because someone tipped them off.

Rendition: the taking of the terror suspects to some place that allows torture is wrong.(torture, not just uncomfortable treatment) The US did torture(waterboarding), so I must assume, they did send suspects to be tortured in other countries.

I would hope the US goverment would have smoothed over the taking of a terror suspect without following procedures, and possibly figured out a way to work together in the future, to act quickly and arrest, rather than abduct, the suspect.

If a country does not assist in the arresting of suspected terrorists, the snatching of that suspect must be considered. The safety of nations depends on getting the terrorists, where they feel comfortable. BY the time goverments work out the paperwork, the person is gone, and may be able to kill thousands more people before he is caught or killed.

Limited abducting of suspects is defendable. Rendition is not.

Shame on the Italian judge.

Do I also need to mention that toutre is quite possibly the biggest reason we are in Iraq.

The first high ranking AQ member to be caught was tortured and after realized that a whole heck of a lot of questions were about Saddam and Iraq he started to spin a tale. Later it came out that in the training camps he would tell the recruits that you can be much more valuable giving false or misleading information after capture than just shutting down.

Even after the CIA told the Bush Administration that the guy was worthless they continued to use the intel because it justified their AQ-Iraq link.

To sell the Iraq War to the American people, Bush and the neocons called it “the central front in the war on terror,” a claim that was buttressed by false information fed to the Bush administration by captured al-Qaeda operatives in the face of torture or threatened torture.


Those lies told about an Iraqi-Qaeda alliance -- whether coerced or intentionally misleading -- reflected a symbiotic relationship that had grown between the neocons and al-Qaeda, at least over their mutual desire to kill Saddam Hussein, a secular Muslim who brutally repressed extremists and also was an enemy of Israel.
By invading Iraq, Bush and the neocons gave three key gifts to al-Qaeda: they shifted U.S. military focus away from the Af-Pac border region where Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaeda leaders were hiding; eliminated al-Qaeda’s rival Saddam Hussein; and intensified anti-Americanism, which helped al-Qaeda recruit more suicide bombers.


Beyond that, Bush and the neocons upgraded the prospects for extremists to destabilize the Pakistani government, whose collapse could deliver nuclear weapons into the hands of al-Qaeda terrorists, exactly the nightmare scenario that Bush and neocons cited to justify the invasion of Iraq.

Why?
Ringo

He is demon-possessed, and part of the False Prophet.

The Italian judge?

I'd love to hear you provide some proof of that.
Ringo