how many failed prophecies does a false prophet make?

Tenebrae · #21 7th November 2009, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by bluelime2

And I think you have a pentagram for an avatar for a reason. He said "I predict' not 'God said' for the five year idea. He then said 'I feel very strongly in my heart that the word of the lord came to me' etc on the thing about NZ which has not been proved false yet.

given that the prophecy/prediction was made in 2003, yes it has been proven false

as for my pentegram, have you never heard of the christian meaning, it symbolises the five wounds of Christ, 2 in the ankles, 2 in the feet and one in the side

Tenebrae · #22 7th November 2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by the.Sheepdog

I think the more important question dear Tenebrae, is why this upsets you so?

Im not perfect and I assume you are not either; so why must this guy be?

Anyhow, everyone has completely managed to ignore the question. How many failed prophecies does it take before we stop listening to someone.

Tenebrae · #23 7th November 2009, 04:20 PM

For goodness sakes, could I please have one answer without someone taking the mickey. If truth be told I think Brian Tamaki is a raving lunatic, however the question was how many false prophecies does it take before we stop listening to someone.

No agenda, no nothing. So could I please have at least one serious answer

Originally Posted by Balance

They are allowed one mistake, OT they stoned them - now in the NT we just bludgeon them with our tongues, never letting them forget they made a mistake.

I say that tongue in cheek.

And I'm not addressing the OP personally, what follows is my opinion.

I find, that as I get older I approach ministries like a do restaurants. If I go to a restaurant and find a welcoming place, am fed well. I support that place in couple of different ways. I go back to be fed again, I support them with my money and I tell lots of people how good the food was. Their business grows because of word of mouth.

If I am not fed well, if the service is bad. I just don't go back. If someone asks me about the place, I tell them what I think. But I don't take ads out in the paper, or go out of my way to noise it abroad.

IMO if we treated ministries like restaurants, some would grow and others would just close down.

ARBITER01 · #24 7th November 2009, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Anyhow, everyone has completely managed to ignore the question. How many failed prophecies does it take before we stop listening to someone.

And everyone has told you just one.

nephilimiyr · #25 7th November 2009, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Anyhow, everyone has completely managed to ignore the question. How many failed prophecies does it take before we stop listening to someone.

Both Arby and Gods_Child1 already answered your question for you correctly, just one.

nephilimiyr · #26 7th November 2009, 05:17 PM

Now if you want to talk about supposed men of God who actually do make false prophecies you should forget about this man in your op and talk about, perhaps, Kim Clement. He actually does have quite a few "thus sayeth the Lord" moments and alot of them haven't come to pass. According to him, America should right now be in the midst of the greatest economic boom and time of prosperity this country ever had, instead we are in the midst of the worst econimic recession this country ever had since the great depression, and I do think this is another depression.

He did correctly prophecy that Obama would become the next president but he also said that very shorty after taking office the next president would be filled with the Holy Spirit and people would question him being a democrate as he would turn conservative.

I could go on, the guy has a rap sheet of false prophecies longer than Charles Manson's criminal record.

nephilimiyr · #27 7th November 2009, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by ARBITER01

A very good percentage of prophecies in fact do have that saying before them when we look at them in the bible. When GOD operates HIS wisdom through me that way, do I take credit for it? I better not.

What I say here is not meant to be argumentative, all one has to do is look it up in the bible and see how GOD operated through HIS servants. Whether it be Isaiah or Jesus, they both operated in the office of prophet the same way.

Whether that guy prefaced it with "thus saith The Lord" or not, when he said "I predict" he automatically placed himself under scrutiny as a prophet, and being wrong as he was, he is certainly showed himself as no prophet before everyone. Benny Hinn used to do the same thing in the very beginning of his shows, and he too was wrong consistently, hence he was no prophet.

If GOD has not called you to be a prophet, you don't "presumptuously" speak for HIM, because you will invariably prove yourself wrong before folks, it will just be a matter of time.

I disagree. Not with whether someone having to preface what they predict with a "Thus sayeth the Lord", because they don't, but with this idea that any pastor who makes a prediction should automatically be considered a prophet, or wanting to be known as a prophet. My own pastor has predicted things and I don't see him as a prophet. This idea that anyone who makes a prediction is a prophet is simply wrong, and perhaps even bordering on paranoia.

John1032 · #28 7th November 2009, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Anyhow, everyone has completely managed to ignore the question. How many failed prophecies does it take before we stop listening to someone.

Well Miss T, do you really want an answer to that question, because whatever another person says, and if a person doesn't want to hear what others have to say, then it will make no difference.

My answer, don't bother listening to prophets of todays, because they are false. They all sound the same, and try to out bid all other comers.

Oh, by the way, were did your interpretation of the pentogram come from, as I didn't read that in HIS WORD?

Most know that the symbolic sign is a sign of darkness, and not light. Now seeing that we are talking about false prophets, then your explanation of the pentrogram is false teaching. Is that correct?

~RENEE~ · #29 7th November 2009, 06:29 PM

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My answer, don't bother listening to prophets of todays, because they are false. They all sound the same, and try to out bid all other comers.

</H2>1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 (Amplified Bible)

19Do not quench (suppress or subdue) the [Holy] Spirit;
20Do not spurn the gifts and utterances of the prophets [do not depreciate prophetic revelations nor despise inspired instruction or exhortation or warning].
21But test and prove all things [until you can recognize] what is good; [to that] hold fast. 22Abstain from evil [shrink from it and keep aloof from it] in whatever form or whatever kind it may be.

~RENEE~ · #30 7th November 2009, 06:43 PM

some prophecies that are given are meant to be prayed over.

Some do not have a timeline.

We also see in the bible where a prophecy was given the people prayed and as a result of their prayer it did not come to pass.

Now bout your vid I didn't watch it. But by what you said I would verture to say a prideful man speaking his prideful wishes.