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7th November 2009, 01:52 AM
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This subject may be probably one of the most intense that there is.
I have my own thoughts on this but I honestly believe that it would do us ALL good to look at this with each other and share our views.
It is important that we have some unity of faith concerning these end times.
#1
PLEASE allow each and everyone who posts to provide their complete understanding, by not attacking or debating their belief... for one week.
IF we let each and everyone of us say what we have come to know and understand, without debate, we may be able to see a better picture of where we really are right now in real time...In other words I am asking y'all to treat this thread like a place where we can give our denominations statement of faith and not have to explain it...for now.
ONE WEEK is all I am asking.
That way we will not be encumbered with someone asking the same questions over and over...
And #2
PLEASE...let's do our best to keep this OP.
Thanks
Brother Jerry
Questions:
Are we in the beginning of the Great Tribulation?
And why you believe this.
If we are not in the Great Tribulation, how far are we from it starting?
And why you believe this.
What do you believe marks the beginning of the Great Tribulation?
And why you believe this.
How long do you believe that the Great Tribulation lasts?
And why you believe this.
Do we have to stay here during the entire Great Tribulation?
And why you believe this.
J
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7th November 2009, 02:01 AM
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I believe at best, we may have 5 years till God rolls up His sleeve, and shows the world and the prince of this world, Who's Boss. I'm even wondering if 5 years is realistic. It may be less time than that.
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It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
7th November 2009, 06:24 AM
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I have my own thoughts on this but I honestly believe that it would do us ALL good to look at this with each other and share our views.
It is important that we have some unity of faith concerning these end times.
#1
PLEASE allow each and everyone who posts to provide their complete understanding, by not attacking or debating their belief... for one week.
IF we let each and everyone of us say what we have come to know and understand, without debate, we may be able to see a better picture of where we really are right now in real time...In other words I am asking y'all to treat this thread like a place where we can give our denominations statement of faith and not have to explain it...for now.
ONE WEEK is all I am asking.
That way we will not be encumbered with someone asking the same questions over and over...
And #2
PLEASE...let's do our best to keep this OP.
Thanks
Brother Jerry
Questions:
Are we in the beginning of the Great Tribulation?
And why you believe this. no...we are not yet in that time we are still waiting for the NWO to form and become world wide and then fail... Satan is cast from heaven then, and his apeparance heals the deadly wound. Jesus taught that there would be wars and rumours of wars...meaning that the trib would not begin until there was no more wars.. iow the world system has to be in place... the NWO must exist and be a complete world system If we are not in the Great Tribulation, how far are we from it starting?
And why you believe this. Only God really knows...but IMO not that long...we can see the beginnings of the NWO today, although it has a ways to go What do you believe marks the beginning of the Great Tribulation?
And why you believe this. answered above... How long do you believe that the Great Tribulation lasts?
And why you believe this. 5 months...Rev9 imo = the shorteneing of the trib that Jesus spoke about, for the elect's sake... Do we have to stay here during the entire Great Tribulation? And why you believe this.
J of course we do...the church/believers are definitely here against the beast....the candlesticks are defined as churches in Rev1, and further defined in Rev2-3 2 candlesticks (churches) are seen against the beast in Rev11.... and we see Satan cast out of heaven and to the earth in Rev12, and the last verse shows that he goes after the believers... Satan even overcomes them (with a flood of lies)... beguiles them/turns them from virgins in waiting (for Christ) into whores (worshiping Satan in disguise) so we are sure here in that time... either elect and protected, or beguiled and fooled... plus, the same gathering spoke of in 1Thes4, is also the subject of 1Cor15, Mat24, Mar13, Luk21, Rev19...to name but a few.
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7th November 2009, 08:07 AM
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Reps: 1,179,057,138,807,419 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by zeke37 [/font]
Jesus taught that there would be wars and rumours of wars...meaning that the trib would not begin until there was no more wars..
Wars and rumours of wars = no more wars. oh boy.
Really trib. seems to = wars to me, among other things, not absence of them.
5 months...Rev9 imo = the shorteneing of the trib that Jesus spoke about, for the elect's sake...
the 5 months is just one part of the tribulation which goes on for years.
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7th November 2009, 08:49 AM
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Reps: 48,533,951,663,200,576 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by B1inHim Q: How long do we have? Really? A: Untill Thursday, September 9th 2031. |
7th November 2009, 03:23 PM
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Reps: 53,439,898,510,193 (power: 53,439,898,515) | | | Biblical precedent does not allow any forecasting for the timing of the tribulation by Gentiles, it does mention warning signs for the Hebrew believers of the end-time.
The first chapters mention a group of widely separated believers that share certain OT experiences, making them Hebrews a plausable option.
The next chapter reveals the figure of 4 as associated with judgment as per Jeremiah, and the four horsemen sent by God as per Zechariah.
The only detail left is that the prophetic clock only starts when the roll is handed over. |
7th November 2009, 03:52 PM
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How did you come up with that date..............just curious?
Problem #1 some people see the great tribulations as from the first trumpet others see it as only the persecution of Christians under the AC .............
As for me I see the trumpets as the start of the plagues and the start of wrath of God............and the whole thing as the great Tribulation............Now it has not started and when it does very very few will recognise it as such most will see it as natural disasters as time goes on a large part of christianity will blame a small section of people who they see as claiming to be Christian but wh are really Devil worshippers........Just afte the fifth trumpet these people willbe dragged into the streets given mock trials in some cases but all will be put to death. the people who do this willbelieve they serve God.
When??????????????????? no one can know not even the son |
7th November 2009, 04:52 PM
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Reps: 48,533,951,663,200,576 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Just The Facts HI Ribi
How did you come up with that date..............just curious?
When??????????????????? no one can know not even the son I'm just guessing, but if you see a seven thousand year plan in the Bible, and if you know what God's annual Holy Days mean it makes sense.
The Son did not know at the time He said that, that does not mean He does not know now, and surely He will do nothing without telling His prophets. |
7th November 2009, 06:33 PM
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7th November 2009, 07:46 PM
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I'll see y'all in a week...
have a great week y'all
Rev. 22:20-21 (KJV)
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
[21] The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Love,
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