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Old 6th November 2009, 11:49 AM
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Biblical Judaism...

The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."

The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians are very knowledgeable of the Old Testament. However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes' Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4:

"The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way."

If all those who believe in God the Father returned to Biblical Judaism, wouldn't it be a great foundation to unite Messianic, Judaism, and Islam under one God?
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You know that the God and the community of faithful described by Islam is dramatically different than Biblical people.
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You know that the God and the community of faithful described by Islam is dramatically different than Biblical people.
Agreed.
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If all those who believe in God the Father returned to Biblical Judaism, wouldn't it be a great foundation to unite Messianic, Judaism, and Islam under one God?


Yes, if it's the right G_d ie NOT the Islamic god (why not Christianity as well, though?).
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Originally Posted by Heber View Post

Yes, if it's the right G_d ie NOT the Islamic god (why not Christianity as well, though?).
All have faults, whether christian, judaism, islam, when it comes to the comparative with biblical judaism.
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If you're holding up Ethiopian Jews as an example, then you have to realize they have their own extra-biblical traditions and commentaries: Beta Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . They aren't some sort of super-ancient Karaite.
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Sounds very much like One World Religion that the adversary is feeding those who will listen.
Tell me how you would join the teachings of the Koran and the Tanakh without compromising either.
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All would have to give up everything to follow God.
Then they are no longer Islamic, Jewish, or Christian, but Israelites grafted in. Just like I don't believe in the term 'gentile believer'. It's an oxymoron. There is only one house, one faith, and one El. And Allah is not the Father of the Bible; he is the moon god who is married to some other goddess with 3 other god-like children. A very different diety than the One that we claim to worship.Messianism to me, is not a denomination. It is what the faith is. The apostles were first called Messianics at Antioch. They had differences (Peter and Paul) but they had to settle those differences Scripturely. My El is not a god of division but of unity and reconcilliation. We as believers can not keep moving in different directions.
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Then they are no longer Islamic, Jewish, or Christian, but Israelites grafted in. Just like I don't believe in the term 'gentile believer'. It's an oxymoron. There is only one house, one faith, and one El. And Allah is not the Father of the Bible; he is the moon god who is married to some other goddess with 3 other god-like children. A very different diety than the One that we claim to worship.Messianism to me, is not a denomination. It is what the faith is. The apostles were first called Messianics at Antioch. They had differences (Peter and Paul) but they had to settle those differences Scripturely. My El is not a god of division but of unity and reconcilliation. We as believers can not keep moving in different directions.
Amen.. no longer man made religions but of one spirit, one faith, and one hope, one Lord.
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