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Old 6th November 2009, 12:34 AM
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fall of man

why is it that i adopt a 'suspension of reason' to include myself in the fall of man, this is something I did not do, but then adopt reason to think that if I work God will bless me?

in other words, if I work and God blesses me is it deserved? Did I in any way earn it?
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Old 6th November 2009, 09:18 AM
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Are you sinless? If not you, like Adam, are fallen and in desperate need of a Savior, not a philosophical system.

1 John 5
11And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

Ephesians 2
8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast.
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I am asking if I deserve my income, not my salvation. From sin or fall to salvation there are steps a man takes, these steps I earn money, I can invest, I can buy food, I can give to the church. I am asking if it is mine to have control of, is it mine because God had blessed me with it, is it mine because I earned it?
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Old 6th November 2009, 10:29 PM
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You earned it using the resources (life, health, intelligence, etc) God gave you. You are a steward of the money you earn and should use it to glorify Him. And that includes enjoying life.

Dave Ramsey does a great job on the topic of money from a Christian perspective. Google his name and you'll find his website. Good stuff.

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If I earned it, what am I asking for when I pray,

"give us this day our daily bread"?
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He gave you the opportunity and the ability.
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