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Is there any proof that he was involved in that discussion? Is it proven that he wrote the quoted statement, that he agreed with it? There is suspicion and speculation only.

I'm fairly certain that your criminal justice system still runs on the "innocent before proven guilty", at least for your own citizens.
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Old 6th November 2009, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by nolongerhome View Post
Is there any proof that he was involved in that discussion? Is it proven that he wrote the quoted statement, that he agreed with it? There is suspicion and speculation only.

I'm fairly certain that your criminal justice system still runs on the "innocent before proven guilty", at least for your own citizens.

DUH, did you even read the story by CBS news,obviously not,it was the dudes internet blog!


The officials said the postings appeared to have been made by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who was first reported dead, but is now known to be custody following a shooting incident that left least 13 dead and 31 wounded. The officials said they are still trying to confirm that he was the author and an official investigation was not opened.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n5542704.shtml

and your reason for automatically dismissing the report?
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From what I read on Al-Jazeera, the Major is a first generation American born to Palestinian parents who used to live in a town near Jerusalem. He's a Muslim by birth and not a convert.

Al Jazeera English - Americas - Deaths in US army base shooting

<staff edit> Being Muslim does not mean someone is automatically prone to violence. Hundreds of Muslims have worn and still wearing the uniform and serving our nation with distinction and honor. This is a rare case and is to be treated as such. Seeing the reaction of Westerners here in regards to this, I gotta say one thing. When I'm done serving my country in the service, I'm going to retire to a Muslim nation where I won't be villfied by my religion.

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Originally Posted by Nooj View Post
Hopefully long. I hope they throw him in prison and throw away the key.
If he lives long then he gets to continue living while those he murdered are dead.
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they told me if I voted for John McCain that I would get a President like Bush that would violate the airspace and sovereignty of an allied nation with a military force to assassinate a foreign national of another allied country and then their dead body would be dumped in the ocean. and they were right.
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I'm going to post this early. This was/is a national tragedy, and is open for discussion. BUT please keep to the rules, or the thread could be closed. Remember the lives of those lost and wounded, and their families.
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Still might be terrorism, like that muslim soldier who rolled a grenade into a tent. or maybe they're just the army version of Dylan and Harris.

Killing soldiers in war is not terrorism
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Welcome to a concept called "War". You kill them, they kill you.
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Killing soldiers in war is not terrorism
Are you really defending this?
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If he lives long then he gets to continue living while those he murdered are dead.
Dying while unconscious is a mockery of justice, whereas living in prison for the rest of one's natural life isn't exactly sunshine and rainbows.
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Originally Posted by TerranceL View Post
Are you really defending this?
I guess you would condem the German SOldiers who fired upon the invaders at Normandy? It is not a matter of "Defending" anything.
I do not support the arrogant attitude that we are so right that your enemy (Not mine) has a moral duty to simply bear his throat to you and allow you to kill him without offering any resistance.

From a purely military point of view, it is no different than one of our elite units raiding thier base. You can argue that there was no official communication, orders, or other command & control function but this is your narrow view of war. War is not a clash of nations, Armies, warriors, or weapons. When boiled down to its essence, war is a clash of ideas.
So, your enemy (Not mine) is not giving orders the way we our military does. It transmits an idea and these ideas formulate in actions such as these. Welcome to war.

And, by the rules of war, this guy is then a spy, sabotour, traitor, double agent, or defector and should be treated as such.
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