1 Cor. 13:10

?!?

Here is another question:

Give me one good reason why the word "teleion" must be rendered "perfect"?

If I am collecting eggs, for example, and placing them in a carton, when I have 12 and make a dozen, does that make them "perfect"?

Or just complete?

P. Chantraine asserts that this word derives from "teloV".

P. Chantraine, La Formation des nom en Grec Ancien, 1933, 49f.

Bearing this in mind, lets move to this...

This word later can be associated with "telew". In Attic and other sources, one finds "teloV" for "teleioV".

"telew" means to finish, complete, conclude, an operation, Mt. 11:1;13:53; 19:1; et. al.; to finish, a circuit, Mt. 10:23; to carry out into full operation, Rom. 2:27, Gla. 5:16; Jas. 2:8; to pay dues, Mt. 17:24, et.al.; pass. to be fulfilled, realized, Lk. 12:50; 18:31; et.al.; of time, to be ended, elapse, Rev. 15:8; 20:3,5,7.

A lot of the same definitions for "telew" are found in "teleioV".

So, why must this word always be rendered as "perfect"?

We are given these gifts as a partial in this lifetime, but when that which is complete (Jesus Christ) has come, then that which is partial (gifts) shall be completed (fully realized, through, complete, entire, full grown, etc.) and done away with.

There will be not need for these gifts as Paul said, for I will know, even as I am known.

But here again, why must "teleion" always be rendered as "perfect"?

God Bless

Till all are one.

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I wrote something on it that I have posted here before. Rather than open another thread that will undoubtedly turn into an argument of no real value I will see if I can find it and PM it to you.

Thanks !

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Deacon Dean! Be confused and scratch your head all You want ... but agonizing over the word Telion...Common If that isn't taking it a little far, Well I guess I'm just not meticulous enough I guess .

Originally Posted by oneofchrists

Deacon Dean! Be confused and scratch your head all You want ... but agonizing over the word Telion...Common If that isn't taking it a little far, Well I guess I'm just not meticulous enough I guess .

Do you want to explain to us how wanting to dig in and really understand what God's Word says (and doesn't actually say) is a bad thing, or a waste of time, like you're obviously saying? Nobody is forcing you to read these posts, so if you find nothing relevant or interesting to you here, move along.

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Jas 1:2-4 Count it all joy, my brothers, when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. But let endurance have its perfect work, that you may be mature and complete, lacking nothing.

Be exalted, O God, above the heavens! Let your glory be over all the earth! (Psa 57:5)

We didn't believe in order to be born again, we were born again in order to believe.

I am the watchman on the wall....

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If you have nothing relavent to add to this discussion, and you want to continually put me down for "study to shew thyself approved, a workman rightly dividing the word of truth" then I respectfull ask that you excuse yourself from this thread.

God Bless

Till all are one.

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"Cursed be the day wherein I was born: let not the day wherein my mother bare me be blessed. Cursed be the man who brought tidings to my father, saying, A man child is born unto thee; making him very glad...Because he slew me not from the womb; or that my mother might have been my grave, and her womb to be always great with me." -Jer. 20: 14-15, 17 (KJV)

I think you are. You walked in on one thread and called everyone who defends the everlasting truth of the sovereignty of God in the salvation of men, wolves. Remember ?

Im with Dean, if you have nothing constructive to add to the discussion dont let the door hit you on the way out of the thread.

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Some in this thread need to cool it. We are all brothers in Christ and need to start acting like it. Please post with charity.

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Not worth it

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Jas 1:2-4 Count it all joy, my brothers, when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. But let endurance have its perfect work, that you may be mature and complete, lacking nothing.

Be exalted, O God, above the heavens! Let your glory be over all the earth! (Psa 57:5)

We didn't believe in order to be born again, we were born again in order to believe.

I am the watchman on the wall....

No Matter Where You Go, There You Are...
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CAAAAN YOU FEEEEL THE LOOOOVE TONIIIIGHT?

Must be a full moon or something.

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