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Old 6th November 2009, 01:49 PM
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Old 6th November 2009, 03:09 PM
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I suppose I do not understand why your parents would have any sway over you becoming a catechumen - you are 21 years old. A legal adult. This choice is about you and your soul, your salvation - why would you put that off because your parents do not understand or are against your conversion?
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Old 6th November 2009, 03:53 PM
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I suppose I do not understand why your parents would have any sway over you becoming a catechumen - you are 21 years old. A legal adult. This choice is about you and your soul, your salvation - why would you put that off because your parents do not understand or are against your conversion?
i think i have made my choice, and i am not putting it off because my parents don't like it. i guess i'm just looking for understanding between us.
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soooo i think i found a solution.

the episcopal church has a service at 8 and the orthodox divine liturgy starts at 10 so we can just go to both.

now if only my dad would answer his phone so i can tell him my brilliant idea...
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Old 6th November 2009, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Julina View Post
that was random
Yeah, I typed a statement, submitted it, then thought otherwise.
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Old 6th November 2009, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Julina View Post
soooo i think i found a solution.

the episcopal church has a service at 8 and the orthodox divine liturgy starts at 10 so we can just go to both.

now if only my dad would answer his phone so i can tell him my brilliant idea...
I tried that for one month if that.

On the advice of our Orthodox Priest,
we went to the Catholic Byzantine Divine Liturgy at 8:00 AM,
then we headed over to the Orthodox Divine Liturgy at 10:00 AM
No break - get out and drive to the next church.

Well, the parishioners at the Catholic Church wondered
why our family was not hanging around for the coffee and donut hour.
They thought we were being unsociable and rude.

The parishioners at the Orthodox Church wondered why
we were inattentive, always arriving between 5 to 15 minutes late,
and nodding off to sleep. No win.

Our Orthodox Priest had told us to be very attentive at the
Byzantine Catholic Church, and it drained us.

However, when we had to pile in the car and drive at the maximum
speed allowed to reach the Orthodox Church before the
Epistle Reading (yes, we were always late), it just did not work.

In less than one month, we mentioned to the Orthodox Priest that
we wanted to become catechumens if he would accept us. He did.
And the rest was history.
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Old 6th November 2009, 06:40 PM
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Julina,

I think it's great that you're trying to work with your parents. I realize you're also acting out of obedience to your priest who told you to work things out with your parents. However, I am really relieved that when I (at age 22) decided to become Orthodox it didn't even occur to me to discuss it with my parents.

I had been through enough spiritual changes by then that they had washed their hands, I guess. Being a PK is hard, I grew up with a bunch of them. *hugs*
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Originally Posted by Gwendolyn View Post
I suppose I do not understand why your parents would have any sway over you becoming a catechumen - you are 21 years old. A legal adult. This choice is about you and your soul, your salvation - why would you put that off because your parents do not understand or are against your conversion?
It is in obedience to her priest.

Originally Posted by Julina View Post
...my priest told me i should settle things with my parents first.
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Old 6th November 2009, 10:52 PM
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Forgive me if I missed it- but what denomination are your parents?
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