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10th November 2009, 02:45 PM
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Reps: 27,354,533,772,047,632 (power: 27,354,533,772,065) | | Originally Posted by nolongerhome  The "adult" in my phrase was redundant. If the person can legally consent in that issue they are treated by the law as an adult.
Except they are not being treated like an adult, as they have to get their parents approval. I honestly think that you meant to include them, just a nit pick about the wording.
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10th November 2009, 03:47 PM
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Reps: 149,157,868,790,683 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Followers4christ 1. Becuase the laws of the people said it's not a acceptable lifestyle.
Please cite these laws, if they actually exist, that is (which I doubt they do). 3. Because this is America and the people get to vote on the stuff that matter to them.
Tell me, how exactly does it affect you at all that homosexuals are allowed to marry in Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut, Canada, Belgium, and all of the other states and countries in which gay marriage is legal? Face it, the fact that hundreds of gays get married every single day worldwide doesn't affect you at all. So why vote against that? Also homosexuality can inflict harm in addition to AIDS, there is a long list of maladies attendant upon the homosexually active population such as anal cancer,chlamydia trachomatis, cryptosporidium, giardia lamblia, herpes simplex virus, human papilloma virus (HPV) or genital warts, isospora belli, microsporidia, gonorrhea, viral hepatitis types B & C and syphilis.
Since when are diseases able to discriminate? Last time I checked, there were hundreds of thousands of straight people with all of those STDs, too. 4. They can still have civil unions that is similar to marriage and have the same rights and benefits of married couples.
Would you have told a black person in the 1960s "Here, you can have this 'blacks only' bathroom. It's the same as the 'whites only' bathroom, but we just don't want you in the 'whites only' bathroom"? If not, then why do you think it's okay to say the exact same sort of thing to gays? Face it, separate but equal is not equal. There is no reason at all why gays shouldn't be allowed to call their commitment ceremonies the same thing that straight people call them, just like there is no reason at all why blacks and whites shouldn't have been able to use the same bathrooms in the 1960s.  |
10th November 2009, 06:50 PM
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Reps: 4,405,951,397,236,971 (power: 4,405,951,397,242) | | Originally Posted by lawtonfogle Except they are not being treated like an adult, as they have to get their parents approval. I honestly think that you meant to include them, just a nit pick about the wording.
I wasn't really thinking about this situation, to be honest. I personally think that a couple needs to be able to give their own informed consent before starting a marriage with another person.
If the law requires the informed consent of another person outside of the proposed relationship, I don't think the two (or more) people should be able to get married until they are able to give that same consent to themselves.
That either means either strictly enforcing the current age level at which an individual is able to consent, or lowering the age level. |
11th November 2009, 09:11 AM
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I think it should be simple... let homosexuals get same-sex marriages that are natural for them, let heterosexuals get opposite-sex marriages that are natural for them, and everyone should be happy, since nobody harms anyone else or forces anyone else to do anything.
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11th November 2009, 10:28 AM
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Reps: 89,693,552,045,427,408 (power: 89,693,552,045,434) | | | What I want to know is how gay marriage adversely changes your marriage. Isn't it the divorced people you should REALLY be going after because they're treating marriage like it's not serious (a la Britney Spears) but homosexuals want the seriousness of a commitment, hence why they want to marry. HOW WILL THIS EFFECT YOU? I suspect it won't and most people are hatemongering just to hatemonger.
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22nd December 2009, 11:18 AM
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23rd December 2009, 02:37 AM
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Reps: 1,554,601,617,486,698 (power: 1,554,601,617,493) | | Originally Posted by JustMeSee I would like this issue to go to the supreme court.
Bad idea; opponents of marriage equality will win.
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23rd December 2009, 10:18 AM
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Reps: 164,606,533,243,932,128 (power: 164,606,533,243,947) | | Originally Posted by clarksided Bad idea; opponents of marriage equality will win.
They didn't win when it came to interracial marriage.
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23rd December 2009, 10:30 AM
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Reps: 136,588,282,744,094,096 (power: 136,588,282,744,101) | | Originally Posted by JustMeSee I would like this issue to go to the supreme court. Originally Posted by clarksided Bad idea; opponents of marriage equality will win. Originally Posted by Jase They didn't win when it came to interracial marriage.
We had a much better court back then.
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