The Rise of Religion and the Fall of Man

It was almost a tie between that title or -the heathen's virtue, falling short of the gospel-. Should it of been this it could of been called inflamatory. And so it is not. (thats a sentence, a sentence is a complete thought, how scholars attack the bible).

It was though some time early that the earth was the center of creation. Eventually it was the sun. The reality is the "gospel" is the center of creation, in so much that man is called ADAM. If everyone had there needs met, and there was no suffering. There would be an extinction of "rich" and "mighty" men. Being "rich", or "mighty" entails an ingredient of oppression. Which is the opposite of the "gospel"'s message of "freedom". This is the nature of this discussion. The heathen do for gain, obey the law. But the meaning is the heathen seek suffering, among the members of ADAM.

Where as the "reprobate", to their own hurt and often death, seek to establish their own law. Gain may not become relevant with a "reprobate", but opposing the "law" of the gospel, in as much as it is percieved is their hallmark. The heathen serve no purpose, because there is no gain or plenty outside of slaughter, should this become the case, should the world change. These should become dinosaur. But the world hasn't changed, has it? If the heathen in any way could take life for gain, verily i say they have in their members recieved of the marks which should be meet already. Can they recieve again new life as for the promise in which they deliver themselves from the fire, and unto damnation.

So far the "heathen", and the "reprobate" have been much the same. You can also look at these as the "degree" of fallen man. Because all men have come short of the glory. These surely seek of their own. They will not seek Christ, and Christ will not come for these. and some will live, they will make a christ unto themselves. So that the covering that would, should not come again. Because the covering that is speaks, I am my own, and in my own image i am.

Should the earth split?? Peter and the earthly Church.

Peter is identified with the church. To the heathen, and to the reprobate. Because a "church" is an establishment, it requires money to operate. To the heathen, and to the reprobate, this is justification for these to destroy the promise in the members of ADAM. Embezzlement of all kinds primarily. Lotteries, Insurances, interest rates, all diverse gamblings. Mortages, utilities bills (people have a right to live off the land, or give them a means to an end). Not speaking of taxes which help heathen and reprobates respect the land and the laws.

Lots of these ideals come from the Church. When Christ said i must go so i can pour out the Holy Spirit from among you. Christ meant the church can no longer be solely used because its against his nature. The birthplace of corruption among men, is in opposition with Christ. When Christ said i will destroy the temple and rebuild it in 3 days. He meant the Church is no longer worthy, Christ himself through the holy spirit, superceeds the church as the judge, and introductor to the gospel. Which is the beginning of the promise of eternal life.

The church leaders understood the meaning of the destruction of the temple. And being heathen and reprobates, they understood the answer was to remove Christ altogether from the church, even kill christ in the flesh. In so much that the heathen and reprobate are a law unto themselves. Christ through his mercy has lifted his law above these, and the salvation plan complete.

Should men be confounded?? James the martyr.

James identified with martyrdom, being of the first, notwithstanding Christ. To the heathen and the reprobate. Christ is greater then creation, even the creator of creation. Its impossible man to understand the gospel, without FAITH. The lust of the heathen and the reprobate, lies in resisting the holy spirit, through striffs and contentions with the flesh. there is no mystery to the doctrine or understand of men, its foolishness and leads to death. If there is gain from death, WOE IS IT PRAISED AMONG MEN!!! If there is no gain, but to the glory of the name of Christ, WOE IS IT ACURSED AMONG MEN!!!

To the heathen and to the reprobate. You understand martyrdom, with prostitution primarily. descriminations, and divisions, and denominations of diverse kinds. temporary labor (the foolishness of men knows no bounds), laws that hurt citizens first and all aliens.

Christ will reward the subversive nature of man with afflictions and with confusions of the mind after the former lusts of men. The desire of men is to avoid the judgement of Christ, their own nature of being!!! oh the heathen and the reprobate are the last ones to be called to answer for themselves!!! Mighty is the Christ, and great is his name, his tabernacle can no man claim.

Should the gospel become unprofitable?? John and baptism.

John is identified with water baptism. To the heathen and to the reprobate. Faith without work is dead, faith without Christ is twice dead and swollowed up. A good work which glorifies the father in secret, is meet for faith. Christ has poured out the holy spirit to all men since the crucifician. Its not that men can claim that being a "heathen" or "reprobate", which is to be "man". Is there nature, ITS THEIR DESIRE!!! Christ has exposed these, and the truth since he has risen from the cross. man has chosen to do evil works, and man has chosen to snare his inner man with striffs and contentions. yea for gain, has made sport of hatred and mallice.

Most of church history, and the history of all mankind. Centers around doing evil, which is outward and testifies to men of Christ (lack of). And striffs and contentions, which is to rejoice innerwardly after evil doings, even lusts of all things evil. Which the inner man testifies of to the holy spirit. (2 witnesses, inner outer)

BY 2 WITNESSES IS SOMETHING ESTABLISHED, SURELY cHRIST HAS TWICE ESTABLISHED THESE AND BY MANY OTHERS OF HELL FIRE. and if there be another principality save for babylon, there has been provision for these by inclusion by brain. ADAM was created to be judged, and be of a testimony to the glorious nature of the christ.

To the heathen and to the reprobate. You deny yourselves and your bodies wasted, and your pain is insurmountable. You understand baptism by NARCOTICS. You want to feel good, and deny yourselves, and a holy man causes you pain. SAVE FOR THOSE WHO SAY I HAVE GAINED BY MY FAITH (WHICH IS NOT FAITH BUT DAMNATION)!!!

If mankind is thrown down the gospel, why do they seek it again when it is taken from upon them. ADAM was created to be judged of christ, and these new ones were created for themselves. How therefore can Christ accept these, knowing they are not of him? TO YOUR OWN HURT AND DEATH, SHOULD YOU AGAIN ENTER INTO THE MENTION OF THE MIND OF CHRIST WHICH IS THE GOSPEL!!!! (rejoice all ye of heaven, Christ has been merciful, and the mercies have long suffered. The living god has given his son for crucifician.)

Religion - the act of limiting the holy spirit to individuals, or to circumstances

lets continue.

In light of this thread's topic. I think its time we defined religion correctly, so the generations to come can in righteousness lay claim to end religion as for being called profitable, which will leadeth to death. Since Christ was crucifited, and has since risen, all religion has done for the most part was limit the knowledge of Christ. And stand as a testiment to the mercy of Christ in that the selfish man has resided in himself, and made his lack of mercy of great value. Before i continue i want to put this statement about religion in context. Note, that religion is defined as a "practice" is incorrect. Its a form of cruelty, because what Christ has given freely, man has denied this freedom and without cause for profit, has changed the gospel of Christ into gain. (because the gospel leadeth to life)

From the beginning...

The pharsies in jesus day, were the ones who by the law, held their piece (by that peace) in what portion of the law that sought for gain. Until Jesus came, the holy spirit was mostly only active in the temples, where the law was taught. And because this was true, in the rebellion of the jews, which are those who held the law. They held and spoke unrightly inthe temples, but outside of the temples had the comitted all diverse fornications.

Because they thought the living god would not know of their evils, outside of the temple. The "jew", be-it a pharsies is identified with a "jew". Insomuch that these resist Christ the same. So their motivation for even learning the word of god, or keeping it as they did. Was for the fact that decieved themselves into believing they could also have fornications outside of the temple. Since the holy spirit was mostly active in the temples of those times. (this was common practice since before jesus began his ministry-although the temples were being used, there was an outright cry of uncleaness in their midst also)

Jesus, in essense was the truth made manifest to them. Because the living god is not only in the temples, but also everywhere else, because ADAM was created to be judged. Each time a "pharsie or jew", thought to contradict jesus, it was entirely to protect his right to sin, and make claim to the holy spirit (they thought to make the mercy of god corruptable). They wanted to protect their right to the most vile of sins, and to preach the gospel in the temple in his name. And they wanted the approval of Christ, which they had not.

So the need of the "jew" in jesus times of ministry with the holy ghost, was to simply do sin by the law. Because salvation does not come from the law, or the understanding of the law, but of Christ. Was the "jew" exposed by jesus, secretly working to kill in the temples, by earning the trust of those who sought Christ. And by earning the their trust, could they seduce them to put their trust in the law, and not in Christ, as is with true faith. Because grace comes not by the law, but by Christ alone. (sadducess)

The law without the holy spirit is of no value for salvation. Teaching the law or the gospel without the holy spirit is of no profit for salvation. THUS, because a "person's" head is evil, the whole body is evil. So if the ones who teach the law, which is the gospel, are evil, then the temple is evil and can no good lay there. Now because Christ jesus had not poured out the holy spirit through crucifician yet, the holy spirit still had been for the most part using the temples. So, if the head of that temple was evil. Then because the holy spirit was still using the temple primarily, the body of the temple would not be evil. (do you still follow? let christ be the good shepard)

Now when Christ Jesus, said i am the son of god. This meant the holy spirit was using Christ primarily as a means for salvation, and not the temple. So when they the jews, eventually learned through prosecution of the true believers, even the ones in their temples. That Christ jesus, was understood by them to be the son of god. (be they dumb and unlearned, such is the case with man, even today!) They understood there is no way, not inwardly, and not outwardly to subvert the gospel from men. Thus their motivation to remove the Christ altogether.

Christ through his mercy, as said in those times, and has fullfilled. Christ must go to the father, so he can pour out the holy spirit among all men. And so Christ has, AND IF THE HEAD OF THE TEMPLE IS EVIL, SO IS THE BODY OF THAT TEMPLE. This was true until 1988, where THE HEAD OF EVERY TEMPLE IS EVIL AND THUS THE BODY OF EVERY TEMPLE IS EVIL ALSO. Understand, when Christ was crucified, and had rose. The body of every man alive had become a temple for the holy spirit, the necessity of a "Church" was therefore a vanity. Save for the fact that some could learn the law, where by some would seek grace, knowing Christ gives salvation through grace and not through the law. Therefore, since the crucifician, a "temple" could only help a person identify with the holy spirit, or become more of a heathen-reprobate of himself. Since Christ has already poured out that holy spirit.

If your wondering why the manchild must be delivered of the women. Its because Christ is identifying the fornication of man with his gospel, with the women. Christ brought his gospel to this earth, not to bring his heaven to this earth, but to take from this earth some which would recieve eternal life, which is salvation in Christ jesus. Understand Babylon is your judge, and will decide who will live among the damned, and who will be thrown out, even among fire and brimstone. There is no controvery with Christ, and no fornication form christ, even no controvery with christ. If you understood, that because you come with me, you will recieve salvation also, your mistaken. SALVATION COMES NOT FROM THE LAW OR ITS FULLFILLMENT, BUT FROM CHRIST. (or because babylon did not throw your bodies out, did you assume they recieve, can babylon give salvation by their hands? Or can babylon make an offering to Christ, acceptable? Or do you assume, the gospel, against the word of Christ, should still be profitable among men? know that Christ in part has spoken against religion by crucifician in part, and by the fullfillment of his word and the 1st resurrection, in full, even in full since september 2009) (should you mislead your generations, and should they perish by the sins of their fathers)

lets take a step back...

LUKE 22:52 Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?

LUKE 22:53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

LUKE 22:54 Then took they him, and led [him], and brought him into the high priest's house. And Peter followed afar off.


The heathen and the reprobates, would understand this subversion of the gospel DEMOCRACY. It was the intention of the Christ, to make the body of every man a temple for the holy spirit. Not an outward temple, like as for the past. But an inward temple as for times to come, as was meet for salvation. Freedom and righteousness, the people of the temple had not, but appeared to in the sight of men as for sheep. Through these means did many in their leadership lose their lives.

When Christ left the temple, the daily offering left also. BECAUSE IF THE HEAD WAS EVIL SO WAS THE BODY. (unless you suddenly became dumb and unlearned, then you can't understand, such is the nature of priests). There would be no more offering in sight of their sin from the holy spirit, in their temples of ungodliness. AND SO ITS WAS, AND SO IT IS, AND THE TEMPLES OF MEN WILL COME TO PASS, AND HEREAFTER, NO MORE.

Because, the jews said within themselves. If were the only ones to hear our voices, who can teach us otherwise? They had all along been sowing the harvest of damnation up from and against the gospel.

Should peter have sought to make heaven come to earth, in an outwardly display for all unclean flesh. He would of joined the jews in prosecution of jesus. Peter would of had an DEMOCRACY. Even his own gospel, as for the jews who sought a different cup then the righteousness of Christ. The peter of the gospel, fled from falsehood. But if there be another peter, crafted after the image of the jews, he would indeed fullfill the testimony of the jews who stood against Christ. Even the jews who delivered the saints of Christ jesus to slaughter.

(should the holy spirit depart, religion will become an act of cruelty, if i should of spoken more plainly. But because the heart of man is meet for destruction in these times, did i not speak so plainly)

The Reprobate Survivors, Life After Religion

You must remember the heathen will be separated up from the house of reprobates. Essencially, all of mankind that remains on this date July 21, 2010 belong to the 2nd resurrection period. Religion for these individuals, will cause them more harm then any good. In this context, i'm refering to teachings from god's word the bible. The holy spirit won't be active, any more for this earth, this is the completion of the law, because the law was made for ADAM. In my first post, i wanted to provide an atomsphere, as to the intrepretations they (those in the future) would entertain themselves with. Most of the lavish behavior in todays world. Principally marked by the behavior of the united states. Is the result of crimes against Christ. If there be any jews of tomorrow who teach Christ, they teach entirely of themselves, which wasn't the case in modern society. You must remember the reactions the reprobates gave with Christ jesus. Ultimately, trying to justify the holy spirit in themselves without the holy spirit, will lead to murder and acceptance of other abominable acts, against life.

Jews after Religion

Originally, i had spoken that the jews should be come chief gentiles, and this is profitable. Lets expand on that idea. The need of man in those times, is a need for CLEANLINESS. You can have the jews, and the former churches focus on teaching, cleanliness of mind and of body. (because if it were possible, they will have unlearned all civility by those times). Don't assume because you can understand human behavior now, that you can predict their behavior after prosperity becomes a scarcity.

The jews can teach CLEANLINESS, as least for the immediate future, you can make the gospel "incidental" in relation to CLEANLINESS. Part of this behavior serves another purpose which i will talk about a little. In the much further future, its fruitful if you turn the chief gentiles activities into. CLEANLINESS with vague coincidental relations to the gospel, as if you weren't even knowledgeable of the gospel.

This should cut down on some of their unimaginable, crimes, although subtle against themselves. Understand, Christ has no covenant with man in those times and for everlasting future. There is no 3rd covenant, there simply isn't a covenant period. Christ has a covenant with ADAM, but ADAM will come to pass, this is the fullfillment of the law of the gospel (by reason of judgement). If anything, babylon may have some very small communication with man, but in all likelyhood, you won't be able to identify with this. Christ hasn't created mankind, with the purpose to make them slaves, but simply with the purpose to give life. (speaking of man after ADAM)

you must also understand, the "jews" in their nature, have always been teaching CLEANLINESS. And for the most part, have not been concerned with Christ. You see only 200,000,000 have recieved salvation since the creation of adam. (speaking of the completion of the 144,000 rapture, july 21, 2010). And the reprobates have always been teaching their own laws. For christ to be involved with this earth any longer. Is against Christ, he has given the earth already. And almost infinite amount of mercy, which man has joyfully opposed since the creation of ADAM. Mankind will eventually out grow the gospel alltogether, but for the sake of humanity. Did i only mention that you teach CLEANLINESS with an incidental gospel, then vague coincidental. Should you slay yourselves with a contrary being, you will simply bring death to yourself, and you will have obtained your reward.

The future government

The best you can do in the immediate future is different, forms of communism. Until you are at least to maturely handle your new freedoms, as reprobates. Simply put, you shouldn't let anyone have a "self government". At least until you can organize yourselfs without a mass murder tradition.

You will eventually be able to outgrow your communisms. And be able to establish liberated governments of some kinds. And i don't mean like any of the governments you have now. Since most of these governments were designed under the mercy of god. And thereby the restrictions which were included in that mercy, as definied by the bible.

I don't speak for babylon's interests. But should a small faction of a peoples call for the extermination of the many, in some developmental process. Then by all means babylon has everyright to do something out of mercy, creation is not a call to slavery but a call to freedom. I'm not speaking ofcourse of anytime in the near future. But you can rest assured you have no place with Christ, but should you come to serve again, it will be through babylon, although there are 24 elders, i couldn't imagine any use for men. at least this is true for some time to come. (outside of the the small number of saved, mankind has done reletively well in their make-believe religions, the use of religion here refers to derivatives of teachings obscured from the bible)

(from a different perspective, even, you could say babylon got involved after millions of your own babies were killed. to give you a point of reference) (if your wondering babylon is not being moved by the holy spirit, since the holy spirit isn't a part of babylon, or babylon's judgement as given from Christ, they don't start until it departs in 2011, incase you were wondering)

A Different Look

REVELATION 7:9
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Christ hasn't put a limitation on the number of people that COULD live past April 7, 2012. Although you have an accurate idea of the best potential outcome of survivors. You will die by your own hands essencially. Thats a different abrupt way of looking at the 2nd resurrection rapture. Babylon doesn't actually kill anyone, who isn't already dead. To give you an idea, should there come a time in the future, when you should be abased by babylon, for false accusation. But it is beautiful how all this comes together, and is finished know that it was done by Christ - all the work that is, save for the judgements of babylon. (put a different way, they simply burn the dead, and give the marks, maybe some other things as stated in the bible)

I never said you don't have person freedom to jump off a cliff in the future. But to have anything public on those previous matters, would be likened to crimes worse then genocide. although you will decide for yourselves through bloodshed. (beit ignorance)

The people in revelation 7:9. HAVE THEIR OWN TREES IN THEIR OWN HANDS. Meaning they don't have the tree of life, which comes from Christ. Christ has carefully give numbers for those who would be claimed by him. The rest is left up to chance, although you do have an accurate idea of these. The first part of new earth, does happen in 2011 may. But it isn't finished until 2012 (dec. 12, 2011 - april 7, 2010). Maybe you can find more accurate info, in this forum somewhere.

That should give you some clue, into how the "bites" will go, which determines the potential marked. You would have to survive to be marked, but Christ will have done the first part in all the most merciful of manners.

(this doesn't mean you don't have souls, remember the soul of a man is vanity, so without the intervention of Christ, was there really ever a soul there, outside of the land of the living) (but dont' let me take your initiative, you'll write the gospel out of your history sooner then you think!!!) (you won't have eternal life, but you can makes your lives longer and more enjoyable, or you can simply all die immediately)

(i didn't want anyone to think that verse in the bible, meant the 1st res. rapture meant automatic salvation, just the sealed 144,000 only. thats all, there is no other salvation plans. if you happen to be one of these then good, if not then you will die that self same day.)

EDIT

I left something out. Your government will ultimately become a subsitute god. as least in your immaturity, you can measure the successfulness of goverment. Against the need of the people to express their interest against the chief gentiles. the goverment can become the best parents, and lovers and friends and caretakers, even the best disposals. or whatever those reprobates manage to get themselves into. the government should become CLEANLINESS and sanctuary of mind and body and its enforcer. those are only my thoughts, it could go any way for a very long time. and because there is no gospel or covenant with god, you could do whatever evil forever, until the earth dies, or the sun dies. Or until eventually one of your breathern, gives you mercy by your destruction.

(i didn't expect anyone "religiously" affliated to come to a mature conversation about this. but your time is almost up.)

The Pharoah's Constitution

I'm continuing this discussion, but understand i need to take another step backwards, before i can move forwards. This ofcourse is bibical, and will get to that part.

Put simply, the goal of a person's life in ancient egypt. Was to give glory to the Pharoah in some way. The life and death therefore, was meet for this purpose, and to this end met the culture and customs of ancient egypt. although i have went in somewhat greater detail in the past with this, this isn't the discussion but lends to the context.

You must also understand. That the people of ancient egypt had one goal of existence. Thus, the Book of the Dead, is the equalivent of what you would call a constitution in these days. Everything else outside of those matters was simply left to pharoah. You would of essencially had the right to die, if it became meet for the pharoah. The signifance of the feature in egyptian culture, met you had the right to die, in such a way which glorified the pharoah.

Understand you must use blood, as the ingredient with the book of the dead. Because it was from the pharoah that you would again recieve life. The expression, of tending to the dead, lent to the authority of the pharoah. It may become difficult to completely understand, but with the absence of the holy spirit coming, it should become more clear, should any remenants of that culture remain.

The pharoah was the twilight, the morning and the evening/night. He had rose with the rising of egypt, and slept with falling of the sunset. Egypt itself was his body, in the sense that the pharisees, members of his body, in which there was no shame or distaste. Was to this end, the completion of the judgements of the pharoah, i simply cannot use the word mercy. Mercies implies the expendure of energy which leadeth to life. Where as with pharoah, both were equally, if not death being somewhat more valuable. In the sense that this cohersion with the dead, was the end to the expectation of egypt.

The shu god may have been the beginnings of the book of the dead, in that this was simply the pronouncian of the expectation of the people of egypt, which was to glorify the pharoah in life (emphasising death).

You can understand, the appropriateness of the cruelty which pharoah would use to this end. And the usefulness of taking the life, rather then letting "death" claim. And also the usefullness of the cultural element of the snake, as this was identified as stealing the death of an individual from pharoah. In the sense that, it would take the pharoah longer to identify the persons rights with the book of the dead.

You can understand also my reference, to the "SPCA'S" "criteria for euthanasia", as acceptable as guidelines for the deliverance of the law, during the period of your 323 day tribulation. As you will have no facilities to deal with obstructions against the law. You will also understand at the end of this conversation, why this is an act of mercy from me, to these people, but first lets look at 2 points in scripture.

NUMBERS 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.

I'm probably skipping around here, but. Christ was demonstrating that unlike pharoah. It is good that some should have life. That Christ is the god of the living, and not of the dead. These dead were left unburried, and recieve none attention. From the people of isreal who survived. They understood, it was more important to have life, then to seek the dead, if even for rememberance, outside of mourning prayer has no use for the dead. (if not for rememberance if its necessary)

NUMBERS 21:8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

Christ is a god of the living. If they wanted to choose to die, surely those have already died. Those people of isreal understood. They understand more than this generation of vipers, which Christ will come in the fire of his judgement.

EXODUS 7:12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.

ADAM was created to be judged of Christ, for his purposes, so that some could become saved. This judgement takes place only during the time which someone is alive. So when a life is lost, generally that person has lose his chance of salvation. This is however absolute, as with a child who is unborn. This ofcourse was when christ had an salvation plan which was in effect. It is however at this point finished, and will be made manifest to man when the rapture takes place. July 12-20,21 2010.

Remember, the snake in ancient egypt's culture. Meant to steal death from the pharoah, and deny that person the glory of being delivered to pharoah. When they casted the snakes at the feet of Aaron, secretly they hoped one should kill him, so before pharoah he could become a curse. Christ demonstrated through this miracle, his power to defeat death. A picture of what happens when someone recieves salvation. Ofcourse they only understood, that for now the pharoah, couldn't make this man acursed in his sight. (Christ has power over death).

EXODUS 2:12 And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that [there was] no man, he slew the Egyptian, and hid him in the sand.

EXODUS 2:13 And when he went out the second day, behold, two men of the Hebrews strove together: and he said to him that did the wrong, Wherefore smitest thou thy fellow?

EXODUS 2:14 And he said, Who made thee a prince and a judge over us? intendest thou to kill me, as thou killedst the Egyptian? And Moses feared, and said, Surely this thing is known.

The only "crime" moses had done, was deny pharoah the right to claim the pharisees life. I speak this of a truth. Moses had comitted no crime, the man which was slew had died of himself already. The egyptian of today is the citizens of that great city, which i have endeavored to identify although subtly. Rather the people of today, that have no future with tomorrow. (the people of the 2nd resurrection period, cannot serve christ, so in this sense those Hebrews were correct (neither could the egyptians serve christ))

Those Egyptians, again were only concerned with giving pharoah glory in their deaths. Should you more fully come to understand ancient egypt, this will become your future, as you also will cease to benefit from the holy spirit. Which is the blessing of the shrewed, contrite writings of those egyptians. (because you've had the holy spirit, you judge everyone by its mercies, in intrepretation, this you will unlearn in blood) (moses was already with Christ in spirit, but faith without work is dead, and this was to be made manifest, even in moses)


A Picture of Future Man

Were continuing this discussion, but its branching off slightly.

The heart of the deceased sits in one of the trays on the balance scales. The heart is weighed against either Ma'at, the goddesses of truth, cosmic order, wisdom, and righteousness, or more usually just her symbol, the ostrich feather. Should the deceased be unfortunate enough to have a heart that was considered to be "heavy with sin" and unable to balance against Ma'at's feather, then Ammit would be able to gobble it down. Deprived of their heart, the deceased would then be denied an afterlife.

The first mark, is a lump on the top of the head, about half an inch back from the forehead, in most cases. It will be between the size of half a lemon, or half a grape fruit. I prefer you call it an "organ". A small part of this purpose will allow the next generation, who will be born, to be more accepted in society. If you don't want these people to be killed, you will have to blurr the lines about the affliction others are experiencing. (you know the ones who won't life past oct 20, 2011 (oct 21, 2011 -Dec 20, 2011). You can find pictures/ heiroglyphs, with a sized lump on the top of the head, where i said it will be. And this is where it will be.

The second mark. Your heart will beat slower, and your circulatory system will become more pronounced. But at least for now, you will have a mark that looks like a pile of viens in your right arm, around the area of your wrist (although i'm less certain of this mark). It will look like a snake bite. Feel free to look for this in heiroglyphs also, although i rather not be burdened, but if you must know.

There will not doubt be senseless, killings when this becomes apparent. That it is these which are the ones who will have life. The changes which will come in the future generations, i'm entirely unsure of, except its continunary of the first events. You can call the marks organs, because they serve yet another purpose. The new earth is a different place, its atomsphere and its land and its water, this is the new earth.

when the angels participaed in the sealing of the 144,000. No men knew of this because of the excellency of its fullfillment. Except for what, through Christ, i was allowed to learn, and from what Christ through the holy spirit, beit pleasing to Christ, i shared. When babylon does your marks, it could be done personally, or it could be done in an instant also. Beit, if their instant is imperfect, whatever you would remember, you would remember as a shade of color of somekind. so, the marks can be very impersonal, or it can be personal. But for the sake of this discussion, it will most likely be impersonal (meaning not personal, but you should be able to identify it, should you become marked).

Becoming a new creature, the new face of man

I decided to put this bluntly, when men first recieve their marks. Or when they first appear/given, there will be a need for those people to drink blood. The egyptians would of dealt with this, by making it somewhat ceremonial. Thus the ingredient in a variety of their recipies. If you do something like this, it won't take away from the individuals ability to be civil again, should society reconstitute.

There will be blood provided ofcourse. but if some should consume one another, you should make special provision for these considering, you can very well lose 1/5 to 1/3 to 1/2 of your own people. Simply through foolishness. Those changes to your bodies require blood, you would only need an x amount over a certain period. This is mostly only during this period. There will also be many people who are afflicted, and are disillusioned. Who will become the last ditch effort, for many of your future generations, to get the minerals they need to survive the marks.

The blood you have now is probably not good enough, this shouldn't become an issue, because there will be plenty available. (i wasn't implying that this happend in history before, but i was implying that some cultural elements of the egyptians, simply resembled this) (some people only live near people and water sources may become hard to get, you need to take that into account in your laws, because this is something they can easily put behind them)

How blood is introduced

REVELATION 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

REVELATION 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

Your earth will split for 40 days, hail is the result of reducing ash particles, also this hail is introducing blood, this blood is beneficial for the ones who recieve the marks. This also creates an atomsphere of ambiguity, to the heathen should they eventually lose their life. This is apart of the judgement process, and the first part of your new earth formation.

REVELATION 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

REVELATION 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

(11:5, if you are not bitten, you cannot recieve the marks in july -, you will die. meaning if you were going to be bitten, you could at some point kill these, in that process, but you will eventually die yourself - thats the best way i can put it, they do have tools to defend themselves with)

You must drink blood, should it become more necessary, to remove all other food sources, this is indeed the case. Blood is thicker than water, can hold down sediments from the earth, and can eventually provide the grounds for fertile soil.

REVELATION 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped his image.

REVELATION 16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead [man]: and every living soul died in the sea.

YOU MUST DRINK BLOOD. this is the beginning of the propagation toward the completion of this stage in the marks. at this point, it is still somewhat ambiguous, so that the heathen which should die , would find it difficult to identify you so as to kill you.

Remind yourselves, your in sight of the throne. And although they may come against you, their feasting will cut itself short. By the might of the living god will they perish.

These are dead, and if babylon should hold its peace, you will die by their hands. This judgements are very fair, considering you could of just drunk each others blood. Christ has shewed his mercy until the end, until the end of ADAM. There is much by way of the new earth, none of this will be remembered or come into mind. although you became an express of god's judgement, in that the earth became hell, purgatory, and the pitt. A fuller beauty worked itself in your members, to give glory to christ. A new man for a new earth, the birthplace of man after martian.

EDIT

Think of these event in this wise. The old covenant required blood offerings. The new covenant required no offering, save for faith, which was pleasing to christ (the faith of christ being given freely to all men through the holy spirit). Your bodies and environment become a minature culimantion of the gospel. its a beautiful expression of the mercy of the Christ towards these, first, and second the fruit of your resurrection.

Your simply going to have to be crafty though this entire process (speaking to governments). don't be shy now, you've been reprobate liers all your lives, and now when its to your benefit. You turn cheek. (in other words, the people that would of lived are simply killing themselves, are there are ways to do this throughout this process, let them be examples) (that great city, would be wise to set an example, considering the more "democratic" the nation is, the more problems you "could" succumb to)

EDIT

This process can potentially cure a number of things should you live. This ofcourse can become another reason, many will desperate seek your lives, eventually.

Taking a step back, when the marks first appear


I wanted to clear up some things about when the marks first start to appear in july. This also gives me the chance to provide some clarification.

the mark on the arm, specifically, will appear just below where doctors like to stick their needles, in your fore arm. About 2 inches down, on that thick part. (in most cases).

Indiscriminate sexual desire, will become prevelant. During the First phases, none of humanities moral lines of scrimage will matter. This will become the result of many pregnancies. The second phase ofcourse, is the bloodlust, which i spoke about previousy. That is a requirement due to the rapid rate of the bodies metabolic changes, present in hte host organism. (the age of the individual doesn't matter, the degree of this effect will simply vary per person)

You can look at it this way, most of the pregnancies, can act as a cusion. Because those births will be impartial. Meaning they will resemble most of the features of this latent generation. Ofcourse a degree of men, have the likelyhood of becoming permanently fixed on obtaining sexual desire. (in a trance like state, you should simply consider this part of the affliction and dillusion, although that can take some very dramatic and evil faces).

Which is why again, i'm speaking of all governments. When i say you should have special provisions for those people who have the marks. The individuals who overcome the first phase, will enter into the second phase which is bloodlust. In this phase the individual has more awareness, so they would only attack. The part of mankind which will end up dying anyway. I suggest you simply adapt to this, to the governments i mean. Morality was never your strong suite, own up to the truth.

Another way of looking at this is. The first phase your like the fictional character "succubus", which lives to fill sexual desire (not the killing part). The second phase, your like a fictional character vampire (in this part you must feed, so this stage would emphasis the killing).

(you don't have to worry about, amon eating amon, because they if necessary to get blood will only eat the old mankind which will pass anyway. And their primary targets will be the mankind which have the affliction and dillusion) (to the governments of the earth, make it a crime for any son of ADAM, to harm an AMON. Although instead of the word amon, more correct would be future man, as these are the only people who CAN survive, to live in your earth. and i meant more correct to yourselves) (don't be naive but instead, be bent on securing their safety, should some people, come to demand your land and your people for themselves, in your near future, from among yourselves ofcourse)

EDIT

let me clarify something in the first stage, male or female won't matter to the person, regardless of their choosen preference, they will simply see what they want, and look for the interest in the other person. it will happen so just figure out a way to put this behind yous.

You do realize this sounds like the ramblings of a madman right? Do you really think you are unique, and we church-goers are the blind ones? Listen, you are being led astray by your many theories. If you are a Christian, you shouldn't care if the mark of the Beast will appear between October 21st and December 20st 2011, you won't get it. If you are a Christian, you shouldn't care if Revelation 7:9 is speaking of some who won't have the tree of Life, because you have it. To you, all I say is, you're wrong on so many things, and you will realize this when all your prophecies fail.

I don't remember using my name, as the person for this communication. Its true the reprobates will become more righteous, then the teachers of the law in those times. And if i must say so, you can more fully understand the nakedness, of even that great city. In these matters, should i call them new egypt, it would be for their benefit. New egypt, perfers to make people suffer, as in they are defined by a prison system, which glorifies all that is contrite within their lavishnesses. Old egypt, was definined by a lack of a prison system. If his word should falter, or if their lives should fade away. It will all be to his glory, being the law was fullfilled. (should we continue, to a second opinion of the fall of religion)

Religion a different look

(when people attack "religion" for their own purposes, its accepted among the jews, when "religion" is identified as opposition to the christ, the living god. Its scorned by the jews. I speak to the publican in these matters, even to the reprobates, you are worthy. That statement does not lend to striffs, but it lends to the soundness of this communication. Which is why this is in parathesis)

II PETER 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation.

The salvation plan is complete, as of sept. 2009. When this salvation plan is made manifest to mankind, beginning July 2010. 200,000,000 bodies will be thrown out by babylon, across the face of the earth. If you think contrary, seek to find the body of the manchild. there is no controversy in these matters. Chiefly, the ones who taught religion, taught of themselves, puffed up and placed by the wayside.

Eternal life isn't a novelty item. It is a great joy, and it can also be a cruelty. Christ has given many diverse mercy from before man. Yea, this mercy Christ has sniffed through all of mankind since ADAM. And has found worth 200,000,000. There isn't any one with a "religious" affilication, which is contrary (and there are many). Who will say this is the will of Christ that 200,000,000 dead bodies, be thrown out because in rightousness is the judgement of Christ come. Beit, through unrighteousness, true believers, saints, even Christ jesus, were killed. Yet because this is for righteousness sake, and the fullfillment of his law. These preachers and teachers deny anew the Christ.

You can feel free to put that number on the news, witness for yourselves you publicans and reprobates. Who has become the god of death, and who is the god of life?? Know this, that Christ leadeth to life.

II PETER 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

II PETER 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

For this earth, and for all mankind, Christ only has one salvation plan. And its complete, and it will be made manifest. The sun rises but once in a day, beloved, Christ is not mocked even in all of creation. Although many demonstrate their hatred for themselves, and this is made clear. The reprobates will inherit the earth forever more. no gospels, no covenants, no reasons to bring heaven low, should enter into mind or come into rememberance. Christ has set you free, of a reprobate mind.

The sun rising and setting, in a day. Is a picture of the covenant with christ coming and departing from before the face of all mankind. They understand pharoah, but with christ they understand not.

2 peter 3:9

Christ has promised eternal life, and Christ has promised eternal damnation. It is fruitful to live.

A look at the very near future of man

I want to look at ezekiel for a moment. I have 2 guidelines though, for this to be put in context correctly. 1. that you don't blashpeme Christ's name. 2. That you don't understand that chapter, to be mistaken to mean that christ has a salvation plan with you in the future.

ezekiel 39 - the remanents of babylon

Babylon has been ordained to carryout the 2nd resurrection. Put simply, if there is any additional contact, it would be out of mercy. That is, it would be out of mercy to make mankind into fools, for the sake of life, should their foolishness be expounded to them.

Although many have made the gospel into salvery defined. Christ is a god of freedom. should some, even all fall into temptations, knowing the worship of man is counted for dung, even as man doest worship himself (speaking of the future). Because Christ is the living god and is merciful, and longsuffering to us-ward. It does not mean he desires to establish any more covenants or anything that would become slavery, knowing these are of a reprobate mind. (sharing the gospel is one thing, but turning it into a religion after christ had been crucified, was indeed a form of slavery - they can understand the law, but christ these know not)

Ezekiel 40

EZEKIEL 40:1 In the five and twentieth year of our captivity, in the beginning of the year, in the tenth [day] of the month, in the fourteenth year after that the city was smitten, in the selfsame day the hand of the LORD was upon me, and brought me thither.

may 21, 2011 - JULY 10, 2011 (the bites from the locusts (angels-mal) could take place for 14 days) (May=5, July=7, 2011=2, 5+7+2=14). Think of these dates as separate, and marking the beginning of what is described in my explanation below. (if you want to say jesus was born july 10 thats ok, but the total of those dates is 24, possibilly a reverence to 24 AD) (now if you add 14 to 24 you get 38) (38 is more accurate with biblical intrepretation, if you want to say 38 AD)

July 10, 38AD (although jesus could of been 38 years old when he was crucified, i'm not sure how to work that backwards through the dates without some more research of some kind) the total for that date is 19. the biblical meaning for 19 is for division, which is what pouring out the holy spirit among did, as was meet for the salvation plan.

July 10, 7BC (the total for this date is 15, some say this means attonment, 15 can also mean, the gospel was shamed before man, so that they could understand the mercy if christ, "made manifest")

That would mean Christ died April 7, 30AD at 38 years old. (the total for this date equals 14)

(You must understand, the 2nd resurrection dates coincide with the first coming and crucifician of christ, you may teach the law, but teach Christ. this is good practice for you since you will teach coincidental things concerning the gospel)

In Brief.

Jesus Christ was born July 10, 7BC
Jesus Christ was 38 years when he was crucified.
Jesus Christ was crucified April 7, 30AD

July 10, 2011 you will be bitten in preparation for your marks
this process will be complete before Oct. 20, 2011
April 7, 2012 you will give thanks for your new earth

A continual look at ezekiel 40

I spoke to you before in a diverse manner, that you should put those with the marks in a prison. I speak to you know that you should put those who have been bitten, in parparation for the marks in prison, or some similar place for their protection immediately. And this is meet for yourselves.

The locust (angel-mal) will attach itself to an aroter in your shoulder or some other one. This is meet do not remove it from inside, because another will not come for you, personally.

Don't put yourselves below ground such as the heathen. you can stay above ground, but hidden for your own protection.

If you want to go underground, do it some other time, don't fight with the heathen, should you be caught up in the fire of their burning.

What i will do is if its necessary, i will come to you again on this matter with ezekiel, as for the rest of the chapters. Know that babylon serves Christ, know that Christ is the giver of life. These matters were explained, however, i'll read the rest of it and correct this if necessary.

I spoke to you on the matter already , in relation to the SPCA. There could be a number of problems in the process, and there is nothing you can do about it, except grant mercy. Not after the ways of your fathers, but after the ways of pharoah. You must make good use of the dead.

edit clarification

(you will have to be bitten first, although the importance of july is unmistaken, i thought the bites would happen in the confusion of the 40days. But of a truth you must have a gathering of yourselves in july, should the temptations of the marks be too burdensome for the many, should the scumb to their own temptations which leadeth to death)

The Resurrection of Christ, Rebirth of Mankind

lets continue.

Previously we identified, the birthdate and date of crucifician for jesus christ. This time we will, accurately give the exact time of the crucifician of jesus christ. I will amend this discussion for the birth of jesus christ later, attempted as accurately.

There is an unmistakable relationship between birth, and crucifician of jesus christ, and the resurrection periods, emphasising the 2nd period.

In order to properly continue this discussion, we need to again look at pharoah. Principally, this is cut short.

The pharoah's connection to rah.

The pharoah was considered the "twilight" of egypt. Because the twlight comes before the rising of the sun. You can think of the "twilight", as the center of existence. Meaning the sun god Rah. (Raaaah or "re" if you want tu use re instead of rah). Represented the fruit of creation, or creation. Meaning, the pharoah was pure, in that if the best god was Rah, he stood in opposition to pharoah. Because, "perfect", was measured against the corruptness of the sun, the sun god Rah. A better way of putting it is, that all life, resulted from the activities of pharoah. (thats probably more accurate i should say) (you can probably following the declined meaning of Rah, (meaning Rah gained importance), with the decline of the pharoah's power. (meaning, Rah's definition should of changed when the isrealites left egypt) (as per the pharisees attempts to rekindle the pharoa's "light")

The Crucifician of Christ

Now we have the context established. The crucifician occured April, 7 30AD. This is identified with the 2nd Coming of christ. Which time in April 7, 2012 he will make manifest the work which was accomplished, as to the glory of his name. (speaking of the work beginning Dec. 21, 2011.)

Although Christ was crucified April 7, 30AD. The celestial clock, is syncronized with the 1st Resurrection Rapture, in which Christ makes manifest his salvation plan to mankind. The manchild or "son of man" or saint. Is what makes this celestial clock important, the fact that Christ has sent of himself, to give testimony, through the holy ghost, through his saint. However the glory is Christ's, and because of this fact, the celestial clock which effectively, is the hour hand. Is the mirrored clock in JERUSALEM, ISREAL. Not the clock in PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA. Although the times are somewhat synced, the time jesus was crucified is based on JERUSALEM'S. let me explain.

CIVIC TWILIGHT-JULY 12, 2010-PHILLY-5:10 AM
CIVIC TWILIGHT-JULY 12, 2010-JERUSA-5:15 AM (short for jerusalem)

SUNRISE-JULY 12, 2010-PHILLY-5:42 AM
SUNRISE-JULY 12, 2010-JERUSA-5:42 AM

Summary
The place with Christ crucified in the ground at 5:15am
The time Christ died in the flesh/spirit 5:45am
The time jesus was taken from the cross, about 9am, or 8:45am

Now that we have the correct date, and times, we can properly look at the gospel accounts. I'll look at the account in the order which they are arranged in the bible.
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matthew

27:44 - At this time all 3 of the crucified were alive, Jesus died first, so this cannot be the 9th hour. The 3 were essencially placed on the cross, this has to occur between 5:15am to 5:45 am.

27:45 - The sixth hour, jesus died in the flesh. Jesus had not died in the spirit yet. 5:45am.

27:46 - Jesus dies in the spirit, this is the completion of the resurrection. In this self same hour would those events would of taken place and, for shame the jews would of removed jesus from the cross in that self same hour. 8:45 the passing, in the hour of 9, had the body been removed.

27:47-48 - This would of happend when jesus first died in the flesh at 5:45 am. the pharises would of only understood the flesh.

27:49 - They waited for 3hours, the jews waited not because they had faith, but because this was their joy, to see christ in this manner. For a pretense against mary, and the apostle who stood by her. this would of been to shame the congregation. (had christ indeed worked a more glorious work)

27:50 - Jesus dies inthe spirit at 8:45 am. you can understand the priority the jews placed in placing jesus in the tomb, had these things all occured before the end of the 9th hour.

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luke

23:32 - luke establishes, Christ was the first to be placed on the cross at 5:15am, 2more people were added before 5:45am. The jews answer to controversy. Because Christ would of died in the flesh at 5:45 am.

23:33 - Luke affirms this idea, assuring us that Christ was placed first, and had not died yet, before the other 2 had been placed before/next to him (or in front of him and against the crowds of people, seeing this through the jews could bury jessu with thieves and robbers)

23:34 - When jesus first died in the flesh at 5:45am. The romans identified that this was death. And for fear, cast lots of which who would disperse the people.

23:35 - Christ affirms this with luke. there is stance over this body, of which the jews and the true believers, as if the last one to bare this testimony can shape history or can or cannot blaspheme.

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john

19:13 - we call this CIVIC TWILIGHT, christ has been stood up on the cross 5:15am.

19:14 - john is affirming this date April 7, 30AD as being correct since its sum is 14, 19 in this context has to do with the pouring out of the holy spirit, the completion of the crucifician. (as was made mention). Pilate is the one who before the people says this is your king before the romans, the jews, and the true believers. at 5:15am. CORRECTION. Pilate says this is your king, at 5:45am when the skies turn dark, rather when it begins immediately to turn dark. AS IF TO HIDE HIS IDENTIDY, KNOWING I AM PUBLICAN, YET THE PUBLIC CAN SEE ME NOT. 5:45am is about the 6th our, rather towards plitch blackness, so it was very dark outside.

19:15 - Christ was stood up on the cross crucified at 5:15am. However Pilate had lurked around, for as to shame the jews in the hour, should christ rise from the cross. As a publican this was the best he could do to redeem some of his shame since before the congregation of lost jews. Rather to shame them in return, in like wise.

19:16 - this one demonstrates the anticipation of the jews to condeme christ after their image of ungodliness (condeme rather blaspheme). this is all before 5:15 am.

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mark

15:24 - understand, the romans checked christ, as to his life. seeing the suffering delivered to him from the jews, through the law, which pilate upheld the law. they check his life, when he was placed on the cross at 5:15am, whatever they took, of garments, they had placed there so as to hide the nature of their concern. if they place garments around his neck and heart, they would of checked his life, when removing it/them. not for fear of the jews but rather for fear of pilate because of his law, had this concern been expressed among the romans through christ's delivery.

15:25 - Christ had been there for 3hours (dead ). Mark is focusing on the time which christ had hung there dead. this is what i should do.
5:15-5:45 = 5+1+5+5+4+5 = 25

Mark means to say, Christ was alive for 30minutes, AND DEAD FOR 3 HOURS!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

15:26 - mARK wanted to say, the jews are desireous only of the law, which leads to death, because here they have killed CHRIST!!!

April 7, 30AD (mark uses 15:25 also to infer this date)
5:15am jesus was stood on the cross (the door to heaven was opened sept. 5-15, 2009 by christ)
5:45am christ dies in the flesh
8:45am he dies in the spirit
in the 9th hour, the jews place christ in the tomb before the 10TH HOUR.

I'm going to continue this discussion, with another post (this's relation to the 2nd resurrection rebirth of manking)

The Resurrection of Christ, Rebirth of Mankind

lets continue.

Previously we identified, the birthdate and date of crucifician for jesus christ. This time we will, accurately give the exact time of the crucifician of jesus christ. I will amend this discussion for the birth of jesus christ later, attempted as accurately.

There is an unmistakable relationship between birth, and crucifician of jesus christ, and the resurrection periods, emphasising the 2nd period.

In order to properly continue this discussion, we need to again look at pharoah. Principally, this is cut short.

The pharoah's connection to rah.

The pharoah was considered the "twilight" of egypt. Because the twlight comes before the rising of the sun. You can think of the "twilight", as the center of existence. Meaning the sun god Rah. (Raaaah or "re" if you want tu use re instead of rah). Represented the fruit of creation, or creation. Meaning, the pharoah was pure, in that if the best god was Rah, he stood in opposition to pharoah. Because, "perfect", was measured against the corruptness of the sun, the sun god Rah. A better way of putting it is, that all life, resulted from the activities of pharoah. (thats probably more accurate i should say) (you can probably following the declined meaning of Rah, (meaning Rah gained importance), with the decline of the pharoah's power. (meaning, Rah's definition should of changed when the isrealites left egypt) (as per the pharisees attempts to rekindle the pharoa's "light")

The Crucifician of Christ

Now we have the context established. The crucifician occured April, 7 30AD. This is identified with the 2nd Coming of christ. Which time in April 7, 2012 he will make manifest the work which was accomplished, as to the glory of his name. (speaking of the work beginning Dec. 21, 2011.)

Although Christ was crucified April 7, 30AD. The celestial clock, is syncronized with the 1st Resurrection Rapture, in which Christ makes manifest his salvation plan to mankind. The manchild or "son of man" or saint. Is what makes this celestial clock important, the fact that Christ has sent of himself, to give testimony, through the holy ghost, through his saint. However the glory is Christ's, and because of this fact, the celestial clock which effectively, is the hour hand. Is the mirrored clock in JERUSALEM, ISREAL. Not the clock in PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA. Although the times are somewhat synced, the time jesus was crucified is based on JERUSALEM'S. let me explain.

CIVIC TWILIGHT-JULY 12, 2010-PHILLY-5:10 AM
CIVIC TWILIGHT-JULY 12, 2010-JERUSA-5:15 AM (short for jerusalem)

SUNRISE-JULY 12, 2010-PHILLY-5:42 AM
SUNRISE-JULY 12, 2010-JERUSA-5:42 AM

Summary
The place with Christ crucified in the ground at 5:15am
The time Christ died in the flesh/spirit 5:45am
The time jesus was taken from the cross, about 9am, or 8:45am

Now that we have the correct date, and times, we can properly look at the gospel accounts. I'll look at the account in the order which they are arranged in the bible.
.........
matthew

27:44 - At this time all 3 of the crucified were alive, Jesus died first, so this cannot be the 9th hour. The 3 were essencially placed on the cross, this has to occur between 5:15am to 5:45 am.

27:45 - The sixth hour, jesus died in the flesh. Jesus had not died in the spirit yet. 5:45am.

27:46 - Jesus dies in the spirit, this is the completion of the resurrection. In this self same hour would those events would of taken place and, for shame the jews would of removed jesus from the cross in that self same hour. 8:45 the passing, in the hour of 9, had the body been removed.

27:47-48 - This would of happend when jesus first died in the flesh at 5:45 am. the pharises would of only understood the flesh.

27:49 - They waited for 3hours, the jews waited not because they had faith, but because this was their joy, to see christ in this manner. For a pretense against mary, and the apostle who stood by her. this would of been to shame the congregation. (had christ indeed worked a more glorious work)

27:50 - Jesus dies inthe spirit at 8:45 am. you can understand the priority the jews placed in placing jesus in the tomb, had these things all occured before the end of the 9th hour.

......
luke

23:32 - luke establishes, Christ was the first to be placed on the cross at 5:15am, 2more people were added before 5:45am. The jews answer to controversy. Because Christ would of died in the flesh at 5:45 am.

23:33 - Luke affirms this idea, assuring us that Christ was placed first, and had not died yet, before the other 2 had been placed before/next to him (or in front of him and against the crowds of people, seeing this through the jews could bury jessu with thieves and robbers)

23:34 - When jesus first died in the flesh at 5:45am. The romans identified that this was death. And for fear, cast lots of which who would disperse the people.

23:35 - Christ affirms this with luke. there is stance over this body, of which the jews and the true believers, as if the last one to bare this testimony can shape history or can or cannot blaspheme.

.......
john

19:13 - we call this CIVIC TWILIGHT, christ has been stood up on the cross 5:15am.

19:14 - john is affirming this date April 7, 30AD as being correct since its sum is 14, 19 in this context has to do with the pouring out of the holy spirit, the completion of the crucifician. (as was made mention). Pilate is the one who before the people says this is your king before the romans, the jews, and the true believers. at 5:15am. CORRECTION. Pilate says this is your king, at 5:45am when the skies turn dark, rather when it begins immediately to turn dark. AS IF TO HIDE HIS IDENTIDY, KNOWING I AM PUBLICAN, YET THE PUBLIC CAN SEE ME NOT. 5:45am is about the 6th our, rather towards plitch blackness, so it was very dark outside.

19:15 - Christ was stood up on the cross crucified at 5:15am. However Pilate had lurked around, for as to shame the jews in the hour, should christ rise from the cross. As a publican this was the best he could do to redeem some of his shame since before the congregation of lost jews. Rather to shame them in return, in like wise.

19:16 - this one demonstrates the anticipation of the jews to condeme christ after their image of ungodliness (condeme rather blaspheme). this is all before 5:15 am.

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mark

15:24 - understand, the romans checked christ, as to his life. seeing the suffering delivered to him from the jews, through the law, which pilate upheld the law. they check his life, when he was placed on the cross at 5:15am, whatever they took, of garments, they had placed there so as to hide the nature of their concern. if they place garments around his neck and heart, they would of checked his life, when removing it/them. not for fear of the jews but rather for fear of pilate because of his law, had this concern been expressed among the romans through christ's delivery.

15:25 - Christ had been there for 3hours (dead ). Mark is focusing on the time which christ had hung there dead. this is what i should do.
5:15-5:45 = 5+1+5+5+4+5 = 25

Mark means to say, Christ was alive for 30minutes, AND DEAD FOR 3 HOURS!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

15:26 - mARK wanted to say, the jews are desireous only of the law, which leads to death, because here they have killed CHRIST!!!

April 7, 30AD (mark uses 15:25 also to infer this date)
5:15am jesus was stood on the cross (the door to heaven was opened sept. 5-15, 2009 by christ)
5:45am christ dies in the flesh
8:45am he dies in the spirit
in the 9th hour, the jews place christ in the tomb before the 10TH HOUR.

I'm going to continue this discussion, with another post (this's relation to the 2nd resurrection rebirth of manking)

EDIT

I'm attaching this admendment, to this post mainly to clarify, the missing information. Jesus is above the law, Christ is not bound by the law. The fascination of the romans, even pilate by the demonstration of christ, to resisting death. Clearly, this roman fascination with Christ being portrayed as above the law, is not well carried out in any medium, as is with the crucifician. In fact, only the pharises were "cruel", if you want to put things in perspective.

so more correctly, at 5:15am, when Christ is placed on the cross. the romans (probably a different one). Checks his vitals, as with removing an inner garment, as to check his heart. Even, more than one roman, removed a garment. At 5:45, when jesus slumps down. A roman would of immediately put the (scorpian or insect dipped juice rag) against his mouth/nose. Immediately find Christ dead in the flesh, another roman would of smashed the first one's knees, so as to hide this concern from the jews, (GIVEN IT HAD NOT BEEN MUCH TIME SINCE THEY WERE PLACED ON THE CROSS). Since this would of had to have taken place in under 30 minutes for the 2 thieves. (facing jesus on the cross, most likely the one on jesus's right side was the one that was saved. because the jews would read from right to left, as in they were backwards, so facing jesus the one on the left would of been hit first) (and christ's side pierced second, then the 3rd ones' knees would of been smashed, the purpose being. Christ recieved the first one, but the second one he had not, and also because the roman by the side of jesus, would of follow suite after the first one's knees were smashed, so as to hide this from the jews, one roman a sheethed sword, who had the vinegar, and another roman to who held the large hammer). (KEEP IN MIND THIS WAS NOT DONE SLOTHFULLY, BUT WITH HASTE, AS THIS WAS HISTORICAL TO SAY THE LEAST)

At this time, the skies would of become darkened, rather the sun would of been darkened. Pilate would of yelled out this is your king. crowds would of simply waited, although the sun could of become blood red, and the skies darkened. Fear would of been the motivation to remain there, because the pharsies/most of the crowds didn't have faith.

At 8:45 jesus would of died in the spirit, and he would of gave up the ghost, and spoke. this is when, a roman would of come a second time, this time to hurt the knees of jesus. this time mary, would of spoken to the roman, (and because for fear of peter, would they listen). then the earth would of shooken, and the saints would of rose from their graves. (a testimony to the new temple, in all men). the skies would of still been blood red, as this relates to the betrayal, and the 2nd resurrection. And this would of not taken more then 30 minutes. Because the jews had prepared jesus and burried him before the 10th hour had come.

the pharsies, wouldn't of spared a moment, because to them, if jesus had risen, they would of assumed the people would of burned the temples. (meaning they wouldn't be able to abuse their humanity as much as they'd like to). Ofcourse they didn't touch jesus, in the presense of the saints, to help aid you in how quickly they must of burried jesus. (save for getting his body from the pubic). (the problem people have been having with understanding this part of the gospel, is that they'd assume the romans and the pharsies were on equal terms with their opposition to christ, its amazing they can make a movie about this even now (speaking of the passion), and know nothing about roman culture. (the romans had nothing against christ, personally, which is why a publican can become more righteous then a teacher of the law, because one of these will learn a lie about humanity, by knowing falsely). Mainly i wanted to estabish 1 thing, towards the end of this discussion.

3 parts of the crucifician
1. the suffering of christ
2. christ's death in the flesh
3. christ's death in the spirit

We will connect this to the 2nd resurrection, but first to the 3 parts of the betrayal of judas.