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6th November 2009, 11:39 PM
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Reps: 57,808,762,576,239,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by ThankGodforGod H1N1 has been around.....forever. Remember the 1918 Flu was H1N1. Says who? Where's your source anything besides wikipedia which even you and I can edit? | 
6th November 2009, 11:43 PM
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Reps: 12,983,063,843,906,332 (power: 12,983,063,843,910) | | Originally Posted by soblessed53 Says who? Where's your source anything besides wikipedia which even you and I can edit?
Look at the reference, this is common knowledge.
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6th November 2009, 11:45 PM
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Reps: 57,808,762,576,239,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by ThankGodforGod Look at the reference, this is common knowledge. Oh puhlease,not even close! to being "common knowledge"! But hey this is interesting... Why Revive a Deadly Flu Virus?
1918 flu virus's secrets revealed An experiment to reconstruct the deadly 1918 flu virus has given a new insight into how the infection took hold.
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7th November 2009, 09:45 AM
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How applicable. People really are believing what they want to believe, in the face of everything to the contrary.
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7th November 2009, 10:49 AM
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7th November 2009, 10:58 AM
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Reps: 22,655,783,805,506,600 (power: 22,655,783,805,515) | | | Yes because what a nurse says in a story is indicative of a massive conspiracy to infect the world with an engineered virus. She said she felt like a guinea pig, therefore it must be true! Heck, I've said that as a joke once or twice when my mum tried out a new recipe. She must be in on some kind of conspiracy too!
If they had created this virus, they would be able to make an effective and safe vaccine very quickly. And why would they create a sub-standard vaccine when their goal is money? More effective vaccine = more people buy = more money. So the fact that the vaccine might not be that effective is an argument against your conspiracy theory. Oh no, wait, let me guess, they're going to bring out a MKII version that's more effective in order to squeeze the maximum amount out of governments, amirite?
Seriously, your conspiracy doesn't hold up to the slightest use of common sense.
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7th November 2009, 03:41 PM
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Reps: 57,808,762,576,239,136 (power: 0) | | Ignoring the British Medical Journal,which IMHO is much more prestigious than the American version, certainly isn't using common sense,or believing the BS from those who are advocating the vaccine for "financial gain"! Influenza vaccination: policy versus evidence Influenza vaccination: policy versus evidence -- Jefferson 333 (7574): 912 -- BMJ Flu Jabs Could be a Waste of Time
The above is a portion of a headline from the October 27, 2006 issue of the United Kingdom publication the Telegraph. The article, and several others on the same subject, were initiated because of a report appearing in the October 28, 2006 issue of the prestigious British Medical Journal (BMJ). In the BMJ report, Dr. Tom Jefferson notes that many studies on flu vaccinations were of poor quality and showed evidence of bias. Flu Jabs Could be a Waste of Time
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7th November 2009, 11:16 PM
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Reps: 12,983,063,843,906,332 (power: 12,983,063,843,910) | | Originally Posted by soblessed53 Oh puhlease,not even close! to being "common knowledge"! But hey this is interesting... Why Revive a Deadly Flu Virus?
1918 flu virus's secrets revealed An experiment to reconstruct the deadly 1918 flu virus has given a new insight into how the infection took hold.
Are you kidding? Google "1918 H1N1", this is common knowledge.
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7th November 2009, 11:17 PM
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Reps: 12,983,063,843,906,332 (power: 12,983,063,843,910) | | Originally Posted by soblessed53 Ignoring the British Medical Journal,which IMHO is much more prestigious that the American version certainly,isn't using common sense,or believing the BS from those who are advocating the vaccine for "financial gain"! Influenza vaccination: policy versus evidence Influenza vaccination: policy versus evidence -- Jefferson 333 (7574): 912 -- BMJ Flu Jabs Could be a Waste of Time
The above is a portion of a headline from the October 27, 2006 issue of the United Kingdom publication the Telegraph. The article, and several others on the same subject, were initiated because of a report appearing in the October 28, 2006 issue of the prestigious British Medical Journal (BMJ). In the BMJ report, Dr. Tom Jefferson notes that many studies on flu vaccinations were of poor quality and showed evidence of bias. Flu Jabs Could be a Waste of Time
Does it look at the secondary rates of prevention? Didn't think so.....
__________________ The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie -- deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
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7th November 2009, 11:26 PM
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Reps: 57,808,762,576,239,136 (power: 0) | | I will believe those trained in the medical field every day of the week before I ever take the word of those who stand to gain financially by hawking this snake oil!
And many of those from the medical field and virologists,and microbiologists, ridicule flu shots as virtually worthless,and even worse"RISKY"!
And this one that was rushed to market,and thousands of doses of "LIVE-VIRUS" sent to 18 countries,via the Baxter case,along with all the other news stories that I have already provided the sources for. 
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