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Reps: 113,334,091,635,218,480 (power: 113,334,091,635,226) | | Originally Posted by Godschild87  Jesus did not do away with the rules in the OT, but fulfilled their requirements. Also, it is the principles behind those rules that is important, not the rules themselves in the first place.
Could you show me where in the OT it says that when the Messiah comes that he would do away with all the laws?
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Reps: 113,334,091,635,218,480 (power: 113,334,091,635,226) | | Originally Posted by keith99 Garbage. Simplistic one size fits all answers are rarely right. Depending on the society and the slave in question freeing a slave can be anything from a great boon to a sentence of a slow death.
Simply freeing a slave who has no skills into a society that will despise him is a cruel act.
Ah, so it was immoral to free the slaves in the 1800's? That is what you are saying these people were doing the same kind of work that slaves have always been doing.
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4th November 2009, 04:59 PM
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Reps: 1,971,034,352,550,617 (power: 1,971,034,352,562) | | Originally Posted by underpressure Okay, you're all bleating incoherent nonsense to me, maybe I'm just being thick.
Can you just explain, in as simple terms as possible, why wearing clothes of mixed materials, eating shellfish, approaching women who are on their period are okay for Christians, and homosexuality isn't. I'm a bit confused. Because these laws are inconvenient and bothersome…therefore its obvious God doesn’t want Christians to follow them. Meanwhile it is terribly convenient to misuse a law form the same book as the laws being ignored (fulfilled) to condemn an entire minority and prop up ones personal prejudices that is why
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My bad.
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dir="ltr"> they told me if I voted for John McCain that I would get a President like Bush that would violate the airspace and sovereignty of an allied nation with a military force to assassinate a foreign national of another allied country and then their dead body would be dumped in the ocean. and they were right.
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Reps: 1,971,034,352,550,617 (power: 1,971,034,352,562) | | Originally Posted by Godschild87 Yes, quite easily. The laws are specific to that culture at that time, but the principles behind the laws apply to everyone. This means that any laws that are reiterated n the New Testament, like against homosexual sex (not homosexuality as a whole, just the act), have principles that include the action, not just the principle. Like 'do not murder'. It's not enough to just not kill people, one should be at harmony with people also.
Jesus came and died, eliminating the need for the laws that refer to sacrifices and offerings: Jesus WAS the sacrifice and offering. Peter, in Acts 10, got a vision telling him not to consider unclean that which God has cleansed: in short, the ceremonial laws of the OT are also fulfilled. My guess is that they were cleansed by Jesus' blood as well. Ceremonial laws….could you please cite chapter and verse from Leviticus detailing what laws are “ceremonial” and what laws are “other”?
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Reps: 416,617,700,174,524,864 (power: 416,617,700,174,543) | | Originally Posted by TerranceL Could you show me where in the OT it says that when the Messiah comes that he would do away with all the laws?
Did you read the post you quoted? Or the verse reference? I don't like repeating myself.
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dir="ltr"> "Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...
But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.
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Matthew 5.
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dir="ltr"> "Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...
But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.
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Reps: 416,617,700,174,524,864 (power: 416,617,700,174,543) | | Originally Posted by BigBadWlf You seem to be engaging in revisionist history
Do tell.
It also condemns the eating of shellfish And the wearing of clothes made of two fabrics
And shaving
And getting your hair cut
And wearing wedding rings
Please follow along with the conversation before you bring up the old issue of OT laws.
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dir="ltr"> "Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...
But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.
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Reps: 416,617,700,174,524,864 (power: 416,617,700,174,543) | | Originally Posted by BigBadWlf Technically fulfilled means ignore any OT laws you find inconvenient .
Stick to the issue, please.
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dir="ltr"> "Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...
But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.
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Reps: 416,617,700,174,524,864 (power: 416,617,700,174,543) | | Originally Posted by BigBadWlf Ceremonial laws….could you please cite chapter and verse from Leviticus detailing what laws are “ceremonial” and what laws are “other”?
Why does the Bible need to create the category for it to exist?
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dir="ltr"> "Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...
But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.
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