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3rd November 2009, 09:23 PM
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3rd November 2009, 09:24 PM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Stebaney I'm sorry, I thought this was a Christian forum where we discussed scripture. I didn't realize I'd be ridiculed for merely asking a question (as well as providing scripture).
Yup, and I drove your simplistic personal interpretations into the dust. You have anything better than that, great, let's hear it, but after your OP I'm frankly not expecting much better.
In the mean time, try and put yourself in the place of someone who's just heard a bunch of simplistic slanderous nonsense levelled at America. Then try and put your sense of outrage away for just a second to think about how offensive that might be to someone from Europe. Also, I read two European newspapers today, what's your point?
Don't answer, I'm unsubscribing.
If you had any clue about the situation, you wouldn't be expecting the impending arrival of the antiChrist. Europe is far from united despite this agreement existing - that said, I'm hoping it gets us to buck up our ideas a bit. Originally Posted by Stebaney b.hopeful
you actually profess Christianity????
Go figure. Your fruit doesn't show it.
Bye now
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4th November 2009, 07:40 AM
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Reps: 45,454,215,510,743,368 (power: 45,454,215,510,753) | | Originally Posted by Stebaney He will be a man, according to Revelation 13, who will be head of the composite Beast described in Daniel 7.
FYI, the first EU President may very well be not a man but a woman: the former President of Ireland, Mary Robinson, the former President of Latvia, Vaira Vike-Freiberga, or the current President of Finland, Tarja Halonen are the top names.
I'll second Tulc (  More coffee, perhaps?). Let me assure you that no, we are not "just waiting for" the appointment of the "antichrist": we expect a competent individual, who has enough both diplomat and bureaucrat in her or him to be able to manage the politically highly ambitious team of EU presidents, prime ministers and chancellors. A background in coaching team sports -- ice hockey, football -- might come handy and would be seen as a bonus point.
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5th November 2009, 12:02 AM
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Reps: 37,145,281,383 (power: 0) | | | Lighten up Stebaney. I’ve been eves dropping from the corner pew and I don’t think you’re being ridiculed… closer to being teased like a sibling. Like you, I thought this was a place to discuss scriptures, but I’m not sure that stirring a stew of global politics, book-selling conspiracy theories and popular yet dubious eschatology is actually discussing the scriptures. Why don’t you sit back down, open your bible and together we can explore Christ’s revelation. That would be discussing the scriptures. Oh. I for one didn’t notice that your avatar looked plump… really, but then I stopped looking at avatars in that way when I got married. Just teasing, Stebaney. Come back and talk. Hello to the rest here. I’m Rosco and I’m new… probably shows. | 
5th November 2009, 12:51 AM
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16th November 2009, 01:06 AM
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I won't even bother shooting down Revelations again and thereby the Antichrist.
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16th November 2009, 11:01 AM
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17th November 2009, 03:14 AM
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17th November 2009, 04:11 AM
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17th November 2009, 06:12 AM
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Reps: 45,454,215,510,743,368 (power: 45,454,215,510,753) | | Originally Posted by gracechick Why do you see Germany as the powerhouse of the EU? Originally Posted by ADNox2 Keyword: financial. Frankfurt, banking. .. while on Germany specifically, don't bother arguing the HRE was a successor and thereby Germany counts. Originally Posted by Cabal Pretty sure they also are the #1 worldwide for the most exports.
Indeed, Germany is by far the most populous country in the EU and boasts the world's fourth (4th) largest economy, ranking right behind the United States of America, Japan and China, making Angela Merkel not only the world's most powerful woman but also the world's most powerful leader right behind presidents Obama, Hu and Medvedev. Thus, it's fair to say Germany is the most powerful country in the European Union.
__________________ One achieves little honour if one invades another country, which has done us no harm, with force and injustice, if one rapes and burns, kills and pillages those who only wished to live in peace. It would do us greater honour if our forefathers had always been peaceful and meek, if they had been content with all the things God had given them, instead of robbing and raping others. -- Olaus Petri I am resolving now never to hold rancor, however justified it might be, toward a group of people, whatever their race, religion, conviction, prejudices, errors. -- Irčne Némirovsky Cannons and fire-arms are cruel and damnable machines; I believe them to have been the direct suggestion of the Devil. If Adam had seen in a vision the horrible instruments his children were to invent, he would have died of grief. -- Martin Luther |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |