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4th November 2009, 01:48 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by Subdood  ...or "fetuses" which is a term that is somehow supposed to make one believe it is not human and therefore not deserving of our protection, care, or love.
an insidious word, meant to remove a pre-born baby from being a part of the human race...
my question?
I was once a pre-born baby.....when did the trans-i-tion happen....when did i transition from a "thing", "parasite", and "intruder" that should be "exterminated", to a human being?
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It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
4th November 2009, 01:53 PM
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4th November 2009, 02:24 PM
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I see no one took the effort to answer my original question.
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4th November 2009, 02:43 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by Steezie Wow, the hyperbole-fest in here is getting a little thick.
I see no one took the effort to answer my original question.
i must've missed it...what was it?
and please do not refer to the language or expressions spoken by Christians as "hyperbole". Thank you.
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~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
4th November 2009, 02:50 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,792) | | Originally Posted by brinny an insidious word, meant to remove a pre-born baby from being a part of the human race...
my question?
I was once a pre-born baby.....when did the trans-i-tion happen....when did i transition from a "thing", "parasite", and "intruder" that should be "exterminated", to a human being?
Depends on your perspective. For some, the minute you're conceived you are human. For others, such a transition never occurs (silly you  ) - you are always a "thing," a "parasite," an "intruder" and worthy of extermination. 
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4th November 2009, 02:53 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by Subdood Depends on your perspective. For some, the minute you're conceived you are human. For others, such a transition never occurs (silly you ) - you are always a "thing," a "parasite," an "intruder" and worthy of extermination.
you have a point. chilling, isn't it?
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~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
4th November 2009, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Followers4christ Check out the video to this story before claiming it's "no big deal". God Bless :
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Psalms 22:9-10 ASV 9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb; Thou didst make me trust when I was upon my mother's breasts. 10 I was cast upon thee from the womb; Thou art my God since my mother bare me.
Psalms 71:5-6 ASV 5 For thou art my hope, O Lord Jehovah: Thou art my trust from my youth. 6 By thee have I been holden up from the womb; Thou art he that took me out of my mother's bowels: My praise shall be continually of thee.
Psalms 127:3-5 ASV 3 Lo, children are a heritage of Jehovah; And the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4 As arrows in the hand of a mighty man, So are the children of youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: They shall not be put to shame, When they speak with their enemies in the gate.
Psalms 139:13-18 ASV 13 For thou didst form my inward parts: Thou didst cover me in my mother's womb. 14 I will give thanks unto thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: Wonderful are thy works; And that my soul knoweth right well. 15 My frame was not hidden from thee, When I was made in secret, And curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. 16 Thine eyes did see mine unformed substance; And in thy book they were all written, Even the days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was none of them. 17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! How great is the sum of them! 18 If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: When I awake, I am still with thee.
Matthew 10:29-31 ASV 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? and not one of them shall fall on the ground without your Father: 30 but the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.
Luke 12:1-7 ASV 1 In the mean time, when the many thousands of the multitude were gathered together, insomuch that they trod one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 But there is nothing covered up, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 3 Wherefore whatsoever ye have said in the darkness shall be heard in the light; and what ye have spoken in the ear in the inner chambers shall be proclaimed upon the housetops. 4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5 But I will warn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, who after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him. 6 Are not five sparrows sold for two pence? and not one of them is forgotten in the sight of God. 7 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not: ye are of more value than many sparrows.
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Philippians 2:5-11 KJV Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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4th November 2009, 02:58 PM
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4th November 2009, 03:04 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by Steezie So is it a bonus when anyone changes their mind?
The OP's video is of a person who had a change of heart in reference to something God finds abominable (killing pre-born babies inside a mother's "incubator")
Of COURSE we see it as an example of how God can change a heart of stone into a heart of flesh, and shed His Light of truth into the depths of a darkened conscience.
Of COURSE we see it as a GOOD thing.
__________________ "Prove all things;
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~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
4th November 2009, 03:05 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,792) | | Originally Posted by Steezie Wow, the hyperbole-fest in here is getting a little thick.
I see no one took the effort to answer my original question.
Sorry - we were addressing the issue/topic the OP had raised - your cutely coined "shotgun opera."
But to be honest, I've no idea how to compare one's revelation of what abortion really is to why people leave unfulfilling jobs in the corporate sector - let alone how that is somehow an indictment against capitalism in general??? 
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