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Or, if he defies a direct order from the Commander-in-chief in regards to the military, a court martial.
I doubt anyone wants to turn it into that sort of media spectacle. If there are indications that he'll refuse to respect the ban's repealing, he'll just be sacked as quietly as possible and a Commandant who understands chain of command, brought in.
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Or, if he defies a direct order from the Commander-in-chief in regards to the military, a court martial.
I doubt anyone wants to turn it into that sort of media spectacle. If there are indications that he'll refuse to respect the ban's repealing, he'll just be sacked as quietly as possible and a Commandant who understands chain of command, brought in.
You'd think everyone with a star on their collar would remember Harry Truman's lesson in politics to General McArthur.
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As retired Air Force Colonel Dick Klass said this morning, "Clinton's mistake was to call the Chiefs into the Oval Office and ask them what they thought about gays in the military. What Clinton should have done, and what Obama should do, is call the Chiefs in, explain that repealing the ban is a matter of national security, and tell them that if they are uncomfortable with that, they should resign."
Simply put both of these are wrong options. You call in the Chiefs, you get their opinions and hear their reasoning and then you decide. Once decided then it is fall in or get out.
Good, the last thing I want are bigots representing American values to Afghans and Iraqis.
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Good, the last thing I want are bigots representing American values to Afghans and Iraqis.
yea, not like we ever had bigots change our country before, oh wait.
There were the bigots that fought off the English, the bigots that ended slavery, the bigots that fought against German aggression, the bigots that fought to improve minorities rights.
Bigot:somebody with strong opinions, especially on politics, religion, or ethnicity,who refuses to accept different views
Yea, who cares if homosexuals and heterosexual men live in the same room, shower in the same comon showers.
Figure out a way to keep one sided sexual attraction out of normal every day life, and then we can talk about allowing openly gay people in the military.
We don't force women to live in the same room with men, why should we force straight men to live with homosexual men?
I could care less who wears the uniform, as long as they are honorable people. But like any major change, there is alot of questions to be answered.
We are not talking about a normal working relationship, you go to work then tell everyone bye and go home. Tradtional work relationship has been proven to work.
The military lives in close quarters, in some cases sharing open showers, changing clothes with the same people around regularly. (This is different from the dressing rooms at the gym.) You have to live with every same sex person around you, seeing you naked. Meaning the occsional stare or glance, is more then just some random encounter. Living with someone that might be looking at you sexually, is no different then men and women being forced to live, dress, or shower together.
Currently, you don't know who is or isn't gay. They aren't as open about it, and are less likely to be noticed looking. When it is opened up, then everyone will know, and won't be trying to conceal their interest.
When the homosexuals start facing sexual harrasment, how many here will claim the military is weeding them out? Because the people I know and have seen, when they are "out", they behaive just like the traditional construction crew watching women going by.
Will you accuse the military of special persecution when the newly "out people" proclaim their interest in fellow soldiers to openly?
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It takes a certain naivete to take a politician at their word....
"Remember laws are our friends, its the lawyers we have to look out for."
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A.I am nobody
B.nobody is perfect
A=b&B=c, so A=C
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Islam is not the problem, blind faith is.
Christians need to cast their nets in the sea of despair, not in the aquarium of church-----come, I will make you fishers of men.
So the message here is "I shouldn't have to do my job if I dont want to"?
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Fifteen men on a dead man's chest
Drink and the devil had done for the rest
We wrapped 'em all in a mains'l tight
With twice ten turns of a hawser's bight
And we heaved 'em over and out of sight,
With a Yo-Heave-Ho! and a fare-you-well
And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell
Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell,
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
The Spartan fielded homosexual units and they were among the most respected fighters of their time. I actually fail to see a problem other than the idea that a homosexual cannot be manly enough to fight and die, which is, historically heiferdust.
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