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The abbreviation q.v. stands for the Latin phrase quod vide 'which see'. It is used to direct a reader to another part of a book or article for further information.
__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution
Fossils show history along with chines writings at that where found to be 8000 years old, so again your back to using Embedded age as another type of Omphalos argument.
You guys can't tell the difference between Embedded Age and Omphalos --- even when I show the difference.
From what I've read, it's you who are confused
Repeating your magic mantra...
Embedded age = maturity without history
Embedded history = maturity with history
Chirrup chirrup
...again and again does not explain the difference. Embedded age IS the young earth creationist's Omphalos.
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
Then later, what do you guys do?
You complain when someone doesn't respect the difference between abiogenesis and evolution.
This is avoidance tactics. Scientists do not make stuff up, so they can't tell you about what they don't know. This is in sharp contrast to most creationist output, where practically anything can be dreamt up and made into pseudo-religious dogma. That's easy - science is hard.
And I'm not open to taking history lessons from dead fossils; especially if they contradict the Bible.
So, you choose to believe a book over reality.
Why even try to debate or discuss with people? You're not open to having your beliefs changed or the possibility of being wrong. You're intellectually atrophied.
Why even try to debate or discuss with people? You're not open to having your beliefs changed or the possibility of being wrong. You're intellectually atrophied.
"intellectually atrophied", I like that.
Also, keep in mind you're discussing something with a guy who once claimed that if the original Bible texts disagreed with the KJV translation, then the original Bible texts were wrong.
__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution