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Old 2nd November 2009, 09:36 AM
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Obama Lifts Ban On US Entry For Those With HIV

Obama Lifts Ban On US Entry For Those With HIV - Health News Story - WHIO Dayton

If we want to be the global leader in combatting HIV/AIDS, we need to act like it," Obama said at the White House before signing a bill to extend the Ryan White HIV/AIDS program. Begun in 1990, the program provides medical care, medication and support services to about half a million people, most of them low-income.
Our country should pay for the worlds AId's treatment, if they can find a way to get into our country?


Monthly Aids medicine cost:
$3276-$27,780 annually
HIV Medications - How Much Do HIV Medicines Cost? - The Cost of HIV Medications

We are spending trillions more than we take in and we are looking to pay for the worlds HIV meds?
Because the majority of immigrants can't affod that kind of medicine bill,
I have no problem with anyone becoming a citizen that can take care of themselves, but to accept them, knowing they will cost us, individually, thousands of dollars just for one problem they have, not counting any other benefit.
Of course, if we get goverment option, the Goverment will pay for everyones medical bills, and they could easily raise rates to cover these costs, affordable goverment healthcare?
Traditional monopoly thinking, Undercut the competition, then rake in the money when no one can offer anything close. Even easier when goverment can restrict every premium, and limit every charge, and the goverment has endless funds to strangle the competition. Because they know when they are the only benefit, people will have to pay whatever they want.
Also with Goverment healthcare, the goverment has an interest in every aspect of a perosns life. If its unhealthy, the goverment can limit it, charge extra fees if you do it, or otherwise fine you for not living healthy.

Meaning surcharge/restrcitions on Cigarettes, cigars, fast food, sugary beverages(not just carbonated), fatty or high sugar foods, possibly tv or internet(slovenly lifestyle), possibly tax breaks on exercise clubs memberships. Pro-healthcare people will say this isn't true, and will quote several countries that have Goverment healthcare, and say they don't do it. Simple reply: Our goverment already is looking at how to do this, before they are even in the healthcare business.
Goverment looks to save money on healthcare from people not living the way our goverment believes they should, but also trying to save the world, with borrowed money.
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Old 2nd November 2009, 01:46 PM
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Has Obama lost his mind?
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Old 2nd November 2009, 02:45 PM
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Funny how Obama gets the full blame or credit for this considering that the whole of the second paragraph in hte artilce is:

The order will be finalized on Monday, Obama said, completing a process begun during the Bush administration.
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Old 2nd November 2009, 03:29 PM
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Why do I get the feeling that if this had been completed by the Bush administration there would be praise instead of condemnation?

I don't see the issue with this. It wouldn't appear that Obama is doing anything but finishing something Bush began, and renewing a program from the 90's.
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Old 2nd November 2009, 09:27 PM
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My question is WHY was it shelved during the Bush administration?
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Why do I get the feeling that if this had been completed by the Bush administration there would be praise instead of condemnation?

I don't see the issue with this. It wouldn't appear that Obama is doing anything but finishing something Bush began, and renewing a program from the 90's.
People hate, then they try to find a reason to justify the hate.
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Our country should pay for the worlds AId's treatment, if they can find a way to get into our country?
Our biggest secular threat is the 'us verses them' attitude.
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Has Obama lost his mind?
Did he ever have one?
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I think the US government should pay for everyone's food, shelter, medical care, and cable/internet. Then we all could retire and live a life of leisure. This policiy is definitely a step in the right direction...
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