Palestine's Christians Continue to Suffer Persecution

FrenchAffair · #**101** 4th November 2009, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by canukian

Are you alowed to convert muslims on the street corner, and do they follow sharia law and kill muslims who convert?

I've never heard of anyone being killed for converting.

FrenchAffair · #**102** 4th November 2009, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by b&wpac4

As I said, simply trying to erase Israel isn't going to happen any more than saying the US should cease to exist and give all land back to the native Americans will work. Why do you come up with a solution that you absolutely know has no chance of working?

Israel is not a viable state, even at it's present course with in 50 years the native Israeli born Arab population will out number the Jewish population.

salida · #**103** 4th November 2009, 08:24 PM

Christians don't murder people unless its in self defense. Now, pseudo christians do-there is a difference. A horse walks like a horse-not like a cow. A christian walks like a christian not a devil.

Are these palestines really christians? Do they act like it - or are they the same people who throw bombs at Israel?

FrenchAffair · #**104** 4th November 2009, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by salida

Christians don't murder people unless its in self defense. Now, pseudo christians do-there is a difference. A horse walks like a horse-not like a cow. A christian walks like a christian not a devil.

Are these palestines really christians? Do they act like it - or are they the same people who throw bombs at Israel?

So they are supposed to lye down to Israeli tyranny, allow their homes to be taken from them, allow their children to be shot in the street, allow themselves to be forced into abject poverty and dispare?

Palestinians fighting back against Israeli occupation is the definition of self defence. In fact it's an internationally garmented right to oppose an foreign occupation.

What about the American soldiers bombing children in Iraq, shooting women in the streets of Kabul or blowing up weadings in Pakistan... are you saying they are not Christians...

exotic walrus · #**105** 5th November 2009, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by salida

Christians don't murder people unless its in self defense. Now, pseudo christians do-there is a difference. A horse walks like a horse-not like a cow. A christian walks like a christian not a devil.

Are these palestines really christians? Do they act like it - or are they the same people who throw bombs at Israel?

While Israel cut off their power, their water, eject them from their homes, destroy their livelihoods and then once every few years use helicopter gunships to slaughter their children.

What was that about self defense?

b&wpac4 · #**106** 5th November 2009, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by FrenchAffair

Israel is not a viable state, even at it's present course with in 50 years the native Israeli born Arab population will out number the Jewish population.

I like this game of jump-around-the-question.

b&wpac4 · #**107** 5th November 2009, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by exotic walrus

While Israel cut off their power, their water, eject them from their homes, destroy their livelihoods and then once every few years use helicopter gunships to slaughter their children.

What was that about self defense?

The problem is see here is that you are essentially making it out that one side is completely evil and the other side is full of angels who blush at the thought of hurting a fly.

BOTH sides have committed wrongs and both sides need to make compromises so there can be a lasting peace. But as long as we have the angels vs devils campaign run by zealots on both sides, we'll never get there.

katherine2001 · #**108** 5th November 2009, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by exotic walrus

While Israel cut off their power, their water, eject them from their homes, destroy their livelihoods and then once every few years use helicopter gunships to slaughter their children.

What was that about self defense?

I am sure that if a foreign power took over the US, the "real Christians" would never use guns or bombs against the foreign troops. It makes me wonder if the Christians who go ballistic anytime the threads about Americans supposedly losing their right to bear arms get started would qualify as "real Christians". I don't seem to remember Christ saying that this was okay. He told us to turn the other cheek and to do good to them. I also seem to remember Christ letting His enemies crucify Him and even asked the Father to forgive those that crucified Him. It also makes me wonder if those Christians who see nothing wrong with killing abortionists or bombing their clinics qualify as "real Christians" under the definition given above.

exotic walrus · #**109** 5th November 2009, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by b&wpac4

The problem is see here is that you are essentially making it out that one side is completely evil and the other side is full of angels who blush at the thought of hurting a fly.

No I'm not making it out like that. One side are annexing land including cutting off power, water, medical aid, etc and one side are not. Saying that the violence is equal grossly distorts reality.

It was of course also an exaggeration to prove a point as throwing bombs obviously isn't a form of defense.

b&wpac4 · #**110** 5th November 2009, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by exotic walrus

No I'm not making it out like that. One side are annexing land including cutting off power, water, medical aid, etc and one side are not. Saying that the violence is equal grossly distorts reality.

One side continually breaks the cease fires too. Again, both sides are committing wrong acts and those who are caught in the middle are being hurt and that is detestable.