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Cells have billions and billions of very small parts that require it to live , such as DNA , RNA , cytoplasm , nuclei , nucleus , organelles, chromosomes ,etc .
It's so improbable that these things be put together , that it's like a nintendo wii appearing out of nowhere.
Not only is it improbable , it's also impossible.
A cell cannot live long enough at that kind of stage for it to continue to exist and replicate.
So if there are an infinite amount of universes with the same laws and physics , then there are no aliens in any other universes.
Very improbable , and very impossible.
Cells have billions and billions of very small parts that require it to live , such as DNA , RNA , cytoplasm , nuclei , nucleus , organelles, chromosomes ,etc .
Um, that is a bit of hyperbole.
Originally Posted by alexross8
It's so improbable that these things be put together , that it's like a nintendo wii appearing out of nowhere.
Except a Nintendo Wii is inorganic, and cells put themselves together all the time in Mitosis.
Originally Posted by alexross8
Not only is it improbable , it's also impossible.
A cell cannot live long enough at that kind of stage for it to continue to exist and replicate.
Cite?
Originally Posted by alexross8
So if there are an infinite amount of universes with the same laws and physics , then there are no aliens in any other universes.
Very improbable , and very impossible.
Very improbable, I'd like you to source the "Very impossible" bit.
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Except a Nintendo Wii is inorganic, and cells put themselves together all the time in Mitosis.
No , the rna in cells allow it to go through mitosis.
scientists say that early cells didn't have dna.
No DNA , means no RNA , which means no Mitosis.
If a cell didn't have a nucleus , it would not be able to replicate in anyway , neither would it be able to replicate to produce the same kind of cell.
Um, that is a bit of hyperbole.
No it's not.
The cell really does require billions of things for it's for survival.
If you were to set up a cell , the rate at which it would take to form , would make it very much impossible for the cell to live long enough to replicate.
Imagine building a functional computer.
To build some of the parts , it requires the parts to have gone through many processes that take many days.
If you were to set the computer up within one minute , the computer would not turn on , because some of the parts were created to fast.
That is exactly how it is for a cell to form.
There are parts of the cell that requires a bit of time , which can only happen within an already active cell.
That creates a paradox.
To create a cell , you need to take some working things from other cells for it to work , which can't happen because there are no other cells.
No , the rna in cells allow it to go through mitosis.
Ok, its actually transcription proteins, but we'll run with that....
Originally Posted by alexross8
scientists say that early cells didn't have dna.
No DNA , means no RNA , which means no Mitosis.
Ok, ok.
Originally Posted by alexross8
If a cell didn't have a nucleus , it would not be able to replicate in anyway , neither would it be able to replicate to produce the same kind of cell.
Ok. No. Just No. Please pick up your Biology textbook and turn to the section on Prokaryotes.
There are probably several hundred million organisms without nuclei living and replicating inside you right now.
Originally Posted by alexross8
No it's not.
The cell really does require billions of things for it's for survival.
Ok. Whatever.
Originally Posted by alexross8
If you were to set up a cell , the rate at which it would take to form , would make it very much impossible for the cell to live long enough to replicate.
Cite?
Originally Posted by alexross8
Imagine building a functional computer.
To build some of the parts , it requires the parts to have gone through many processes that take many days.
If you were to set the computer up within one minute , the computer would not turn on , because some of the parts were created to fast.
That is exactly how it is for a cell to form.
There are parts of the cell that requires a bit of time , which can only happen within an already active cell.
That creates a paradox.
Cite?
Originally Posted by alexross8
To create a cell , you need to take some working things from other cells for it to work , which can't happen because there are no other cells.
New cells are formed via mitosis. So yes, there are "other cells"
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"I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and He heard me out of His holy hill." Psalm 3:4
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Take a look at the parts of the cell.
Some of the parts require certain processes for the parts to become fully functional.
Some of these processes take very long to occur.
If you were to rapidly put together a cell , it would be like putting cookie dough onto a plate of frozen meat and unpeeled potatos.
If the first cell was rapidly put together , it would require "Processed" parts for it to function.
These processed parts can only be obtained from an existing cell.
So if there was nothing , and then a cell tried to rapidly form , it would require parts from another cell , which don't exist.
New cells are formed via mitosis. So yes, there are "other cells"
That's circular reasoning though.
The first cell would be the only one of it's kind , therefore can't get anything from other cells , because it's the only cell of it's kind , therefore there are no other cells.
Not to mention the fact that the whole "Alien" idea isn't even supported by scripture , which makes it part of the devil's handiwork.
If you think about it , it seems a lot like the devil's work.
For one , society made up the alien thing only after space travel became an idea.
Secondly , people like to believe in aliens because they don't like feeling alone.
This feeling of loneliness comes from the idea that maybe there is no God.
The scriptures do not even speak about aliens , or little green men for that matter.
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