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4th November 2009, 05:23 PM
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Reps: 24,132,004,284 (power: 24,132,007) | | | God hates divorce and thats the bottom line the only way he allows it is if there was adultery involved then you have the right to divorce.So before you commit yourself to somebody make sure you get to know that person good,dont rush anything,so you wont end up in a divorce court,god bless you. |
5th November 2009, 08:23 AM
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10th November 2009, 06:39 PM
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Reps: 440,245,947,774,284 (power: 440,245,947,780) | | Originally Posted by Johnnz  What nonsense. God does hate divorce when that means people are not taking marriage seriously and being footloose about their commitment. But God Himself divorced Israel because they persisted in living outside his ways.
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God never divorce Israel. He has always been faithful to her [FONT='Times New Roman','serif'] (Hosea 3:1). [/font] |
10th November 2009, 06:41 PM
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Reps: 38,221,363,904,330 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Mr.Cheese i'm sure the woman with a broken jaw and a toddler with bruises all over would find a lot of help in this message.
the mother who discovered that her daughter is being raped by her father would be comforted to know that she must remain with her husband.
this post just andwers so many questions.
it really takes a burden off of my shoulders to know that i can abuse my family without having to worry about them running out on me.
heck. my wife can start sleeping around and manipulating me with emotional blackmail. my daughter can learn all of these christian behaviors in the meantime.
the family that hates together stays together.
Did someone say that? Sounds Catholic to me. |
10th November 2009, 08:45 PM
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Jer 3:8
8 I gave faithless Israel her certificate of divorce and sent her away because of all her adulteries. Yet I saw that her unfaithful sister Judah had no fear; she also went out and committed adultery. NIV
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11th November 2009, 01:33 AM
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Reps: 38,221,363,904,330 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by surrendersacrifice God never divorce Israel. He has always been faithful to her [FONT='Times New Roman','serif'](Hosea 3:1). [/font]
Yes! Exactly.
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You see... is that not the whole point of what Jesus was saying about divorce? |
11th November 2009, 04:18 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by surrendersacrifice To be a Christian is to follow Christ. To follow Him we must love Him. To love Him is to surrender our life to Him. To surrender our life to Him is to live a life that is His, and not ours. This means that we do and think what He does and thinks. We know that God is always faithful to us although we have been unfaithful to Him, and rejected Him by our sins. Furthermore, He sacrificed His own life so that we may be free of sin and have His life. To be a Christian, therefore, is to do likewise. In addition, since it is God who seals the marriage covenant no one can separate what God has joined together (Matt 19:6); and those who attempt to break this seal go against God. Divorce is therefore, absolutely prohibited for believers (Mk 10:11-12, Luke 16:18; Matthew 5: 31-32); and remarriage after divorce is adultery. Furthermore, a person whose spouse is unfaithful to him/her must stay faithful to his/her spouse just as God is faithful to us even when we reject Him (Hosea 3:1).
God hates divorce (Malachi 2:16) and is not pleased with the offerings of those who divorce their spouse (Malachi 2: 13-14). Jesus tells us that before making offering to God, we must reconcile with those with whom we have grievances (Matt. 5: 23-24). Therefore, a divorced person must first reconcile with his/her spouse before making an offering to the Lord.
The whole point of the "divorce thing" was to say, "Hey, I am God, and I will never, ever leave you Israel. I would never divorce you. I will save every last one of you. And if I do this for you who murder me, I will do it for the world"...
Would someone like to disagree with me here.
Please.
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11th November 2009, 08:08 AM
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You see... is that not the whole point of what Jesus was saying about divorce?
Not at all.
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11th November 2009, 08:13 AM
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Christians will quote one or two verses, but they often refuse to quote the law, which prohibits abuse of many types. If we as a society took more action to stop the abuse, as God's law spelled out, then we would not have people feeling guilty over wanting to divorce their abusers.
If we are not willing to accept the extreme actions in the Law, then we need to find some other methods to prevent victims from being harmed, and predators from going free.
The problem lies much deeper than the choice to move out. |
11th November 2009, 09:41 AM
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Saying hey get to know your spouse before you marry is all fine and dandy in a perfect world. I am reading every mans marriage again and I agree when they say guys tend to act differently when dating to what they do after they get married. So one can hide parts of themselves and then what tough luck to late. I do not see any command in the bible that instructs us to put or keep ourselves in harms way except for when standing up for our faith. I do agree however that people should make every effort to stay together. (perhaps learn love is not just a feeling but an action!)
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