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1st November 2009, 08:03 AM
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Reps: 38,330,407,492,018 (power: 38,330,407,495) | | | How were Adam and Eve expected to know? Without a knowledge of good and evil how were they supposed to know what to be good or evil was? did God explain to them what good and evil was all about? had they even heard the words before? God could have told them the tree was poisonous but would they have known what poisonous was?
When God said to Adam 'on the day you eat of it you shall surely die' what was God thinking? if there was no death in the garden of Eden how could Adam possibly understand what death was? perhaps he thought it was something nice?
Perhaps someone could explain how creationists see this because I don't think the majority of Christians take Genesis literally. | 
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by godsmission Without a knowledge of good and evil how were they supposed to know what to be good or evil was? did God explain to them what good and evil was all about? had they even heard the words before? God could have told them the tree was poisonous but would they have known what poisonous was?
When God said to Adam 'on the day you eat of it you shall surely die' what was God thinking? if there was no death in the garden of Eden how could Adam possibly understand what death was? perhaps he thought it was something nice?
Perhaps someone could explain how creationists see this because I don't think the majority of Christians take Genesis literally.
We've been through this before, haven't we?
When you were told E=MC 2, did you know what energy was?
Did you know what the speed of light was?
Did you know what 'squared' meant?
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Reps: 9,824,571,865,200,960 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET We've been through this before, haven't we?
When you were told E=MC2, did you know what energy was?
Did you know what the speed of light was?
Did you know what 'squared' meant?
Were you told that if you used it you would be hygteurpplig? | 
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Yes.
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Reps: 38,330,407,492,018 (power: 38,330,407,495) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET We've been through this before, haven't we?
When you were told E=MC2, did you know what energy was?
Did you know what the speed of light was?
Did you know what 'squared' meant?
As I said before AV, as long as you write a few words even if they don't mean anything, it seems to be enough for you, you know that the whole of Genesis is just a story so understanding it is not a priority for you, in fact if you don't analyse it too much you will never know or worry about it, you can then just believe it.
Thinking can take a hike. | 
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET We've been through this before, haven't we?
When you were told E=MC2, did you know what energy was?
Did you know what the speed of light was?
Did you know what 'squared' meant?
*supplementary question to complete analogy*
Was someone holding a gun to your head while forcing you to make a critical lifechanging decision based on that lack of understanding of E=mc^2? | 
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When you were told E=MC 2, did you know what energy was?
Did you know what the speed of light was?
Did you know what 'squared' meant? Originally Posted by peadar1987 Were you told that if you used it you would be hygteurpplig? Originally Posted by godsmission As I said before AV, as long as you write a few words even if they don't mean anything, it seems to be enough for you, you know that the whole of Genesis is just a story so understanding it is not a priority for you, in fact if you don't analyse it too much you will never know or worry about it, you can then just believe it.
Thinking can take a hike. Originally Posted by Cabal *supplementary question to complete analogy*
Was someone holding a gun to your head while forcing you to make a critical lifechanging decision based on that lack of understanding of E=mc^2?
Guys, I think I made an excellent point here.
If you want to go ahead and make your jokes, be my guest.
I guess we'll have to just keep on explaining it.
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If you want to go ahead and make your jokes, be my guest.
I guess we'll have to just keep on explaining it.
I think cabal's question is the best in this thread, actually. Your question only shows it's possible to be told something that doesn't mean anything to you, which is a major problem when you're told to make important decisions based on this information.
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET Guys, I think I made an excellent point here.
If you want to go ahead and make your jokes, be my guest.
I guess we'll have to just keep on explaining it.
It's not a joke.
Your analogy was incomplete, therefore your point is negated.
Yes, it took me a while to understand what E=mc^2 meant, that didn't mean it wasn't true in the interim. However, no-one asked me to take the wheel (sic) of a nuclear reactor with my faulty knowledge, and to do so would be reckless and irresponsible. | 
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by gaara4158 I think cabal's question is the best in this thread, actually. Your question only shows it's possible to be told something that doesn't mean anything to you, which is a major problem when it's a matter of life and death.
My point looks like it went right over Cabal's head.
When you learned E=MC 2, you knew what E stood for, you knew what M stood for, you knew what C stood for, and you knew what "squared" meant.
If you didn't, I'm sure you asked.
Assuming that Adam didn't know what death meant is just so wrong on so many levels, I feel embarrassed having to explain it.
But the reason I usually say something, is because it has to do with verses in the Bible not found in Genesis 1; meaning the potential of understanding drops dramatically for those who refuse to believe the simple principle of "God did it".
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