"But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus"
I have heard it many times and until now I thought I understood it. I hear people quote this mostly when they are in a financial bind, but they say it like this "God said that He would supply all my needs according to His riches in Glory by Christ Jesus". God didn't say this, Paul did. I guess my question is, (A) why do people say this incorrectly, & (B) Where in the bible does God Himself say that He would provide for our needs?
I'm not saying that everyone is wrong, I'm just saying that I don't understand it and would like some insight on it. Thanks in advance!
Paul as an Apostle is teaching us that God provides our needs is enough to believe God will provide our needs. For God promised to speak through His apostles.
It does not refer to a financial bind, unless God feels a person needs that for His purposes. What do we "need" other than Him? "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not be in want." Ps 23:1
Prov. 19:17; Eccl. 11:1; Eph. 6:8. also show that God repays generosity. The Phillipian congregation had sent material support to Paul, and he was saying that God would not let them go destitute for giving that gift. Of course, our "need" would be defined by 1 tim. 6:8 "But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. "
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I'm asking myself, is it worth the time to respond to this thread? The OP clearly doesn't believe that the Bible is God-breathed and inspired.
can you safely say that the whole bible is god breathed or inspired... i dont think you can, so i would suggest it is worthwhile reply to the thread since you may help another. the many contradictions in the bible make it difficult to ascertain and believe it is god breathed anyway... god is not wrong, nor does he change his mind, nor does he have any failings... god is perfect.. the bible however is not... as a christian or non christian it would be diffcult to prove and provide reasonable proof for this comment other than wat paul sed
can you safely say that the whole bible is god breathed or inspired... i dont think you can, so i would suggest it is worthwhile reply to the thread since you may help another. the many contradictions in the bible make it difficult to ascertain and believe it is god breathed anyway... god is not wrong, nor does he change his mind, nor does he have any failings... god is perfect.. the bible however is not... as a christian or non christian it would be diffcult to prove and provide reasonable proof for this comment other than wat paul sed
This forum is thin on agnostic participation. (someone can correct me). I recommend posing your views on Scripture at the Catholic Forums' Apologetics forum or at Theology Online where there are many Scripture skeptics in discussion with Christians.
"But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus"
I have heard it many times and until now I thought I understood it. I hear people quote this mostly when they are in a financial bind, but they say it like this "God said that He would supply all my needs according to His riches in Glory by Christ Jesus". God didn't say this, Paul did. I guess my question is, (A) why do people say this incorrectly, & (B) Where in the bible does God Himself say that He would provide for our needs?
I'm not saying that everyone is wrong, I'm just saying that I don't understand it and would like some insight on it. Thanks in advance!
Paul got the revelation from Jesus, All the Prophets and Aplstles wrote as the Spirit gave them the revelations, So it was God who said He will suply all our needs.
But notice, Paul was writting to the Philippian Church who were giving to him. Phill 4: 15--19. It is the principle of sowing and reaping, Giving and receiving.
Paul as an Apostle is teaching us that God provides our needs is enough to believe God will provide our needs. For God promised to speak through His apostles.
It does not refer to a financial bind, unless God feels a person needs that for His purposes. What do we "need" other than Him? "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not be in want." Ps 23:1
Please read Phil 4: 19 again, And see the words, "ALL OUR NEEDS" iF you have a financial need God will meet it.
please not, All your need, It is for us, Not God or His purposes.
The Hebrew meaning to "Want" in ps 23: 1, is, [Lack, be lacking] we wont be lacking anything, [including finances] when the Lord is our shepherd.
Please read Phil 4: 19 again, And see the words, "ALL OUR NEEDS" iF you have a financial need God will meet it.
please not, All your need, It is for us, Not God or His purposes.
The Hebrew meaning to "Want" in ps 23: 1, is, [Lack, be lacking] we wont be lacking anything, [including finances] when the Lord is our shepherd.
If you read the whole epistle, that verse seems to be implying that if you are 'in Christ', God will supply your 'every' need topersevere to the end!!!!!! Paul is not talking about God promising necessarily financial blessings, but of providing spiritual strength and blessings to go through all trials and tribulations for the sake of Christ. Financial blessings may or may not have come for many of those Paul wrote to. Many were 'baby' Christians (new in the faith) possibly dying of starvation and/or being persecuted for proclaiming Christ's name. PAUL wrote this letter from prison. He was worried about their response to his imprisonment and possibly their 'falling away' from the faith. Thus, the letter's focus is on the hearing of the good news that those he taught are bearing fruit in his absence (through the teaching by other capable men). The gifts Paul recieved from them were proof that God's Spirit was doing a good work in them and thus proof God was sustaining them in their faith. THAT WAS PAUL'S JOY!!!! Read the context of the whole letter to Philippi. Paul's greatest joy (THANKFULNESS) was to see Christ working in the hearts of those he preached to and providing them strength to endure some setbacks, including Paul's imprisonment..... THEIR FRUIT WAS BEING MANIFESTED AND THUS GOD WAS SUSTAINING THEM....If you go back to chapter 1 you will see it. It's what's called "bookends". The beginning of the letter and the end of the letter reflect the same thought.
Philipians1: 3I thank my God in all my remembrance of you, 4always in every prayer of mine for you all making my prayer with joy, 5because of your partnership in the gospelfrom the first dayuntil now. 6And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ. 7It is right for me to feel this wayabout you all, because I hold you in my heart, for you are all partakers with me of grace, both in my imprisonment and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel. 8For God is my witness, how I yearn for you all with the affection of Christ Jesus. 9And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, 10so that you may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, 11filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.
Philipians 4: 9What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me—practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you.... ...12 I know how to be brought low, and I know how to abound. In any and every circumstance, I have learned the secretof facingplentyand hunger, abundance and need. 13 I can do all things through him who strengthens me.....14 Yet it was kind of you to share my trouble. Not that I seek the gift, butI seek the fruit that increases to your credit.18 I have received full payment, and more.....I am well supplied, having received from Epaphroditus the gifts you sent, a fragrant offering, a sacrifice acceptable and pleasing to God.19 And my God will supply every need of yours according to his riches in glory in Christ Jesus. 20To our God and Father be glory forever and ever. Amen.....
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[quote=christianboy83;53383272Where in the bible does God Himself say that He would provide for our needs?[/quote]
Very little of the bible is directly quoting God and, except for the sayings of Jesus, when it does directly quote God that quote is usually addressed to one person - the prophet concerned at the time. If you try to build and understanding purely on an extended set of "red-letters" you really do not have much material to work with. That's not how scripture works.
But surely Luke 12:24-31 answers your question. (Assuming you take Jesus's words as authoratative.)
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