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What is Democracy?
The way I understand it, Democracy, in its strictest sense, is a govenmental system in which the population votes directly on matters of state.
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The way I understand it, Democracy, in its strictest sense, is a governmental system in which the population votes directly on matters of state.
Direct democracy used to only be feasible on a small scale but I wonder with the growth in communication technologies if a more direct form of democracy could work efficiently now?
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Originally Posted by Christos Anesti View Post
Direct democracy used to only be feasible on a small scale but I wonder with the growth in communication technologies if a more direct form of democracy could work efficiently now?
I think it is feasible, but is it desirable?

There was a real fear of mob rule by America's founders. They need only have looked to the French Revolution to substantiate those fears.
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A democracy is where the people, not the government, decide what happens. Merely voting for who you want in power does not constitute ruling a country, but what you find in democracies is that popular opinion usually prevails in government policy. In short, democracy is where the government is afraid of its people, as opposed to people being afraid of their government.
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Democracy should be a non-hierarchical, discursive, direct participatory process along all social and economical lines of human life.

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Democracy in action:

Two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.
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... which is why a viable democracy, (more often actually a republic or federated republic,) requires not just a constitution but an effective guarantee of minority rights.
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Originally Posted by Christos Anesti View Post
Direct democracy used to only be feasible on a small scale but I wonder with the growth in communication technologies if a more direct form of democracy could work efficiently now?
Rousseau believed democracy could only work in small, homogenous communities. Most theorists of political philosophy agree that democracy is totally incompatible with human nature. It's always about excluding the people, whose instincts are always hostile to those of the official 'representatives' of the people.
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A democracy is where the people, not the government, decide what happens. Merely voting for who you want in power does not constitute ruling a country, but what you find in democracies is that popular opinion usually prevails in government policy. In short, democracy is where the government is afraid of its people, as opposed to people being afraid of their government.
Why base everything on fear like this? Seems medieval to me. I'd rather hava an inclination towards what Aristotle said:
I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law.

I disagree with Supreme on a fundamental level. If someone fears someone else there is a tension there which might burst. Better if there need be no reason to fear, but plenty of reason to trust. Where fear inspires withdrawal and animosity, trust inspires openness and transparency. Sure you might make the government afraid of the people. Easy enough. But what's to stop the government should it be too afraid, from lashing out. Or gradually subverting the people's power?

Is it not better to have an openness, and trust? Is it not important to have a system where the government isn't afraid of the people but consists of the people? In fact, isn't that what democracy is supposed to be about? To let the people rule as opposed to some social elite as was the case in the monarchies?

I, for one, don't want fear. I want accountability, yes. But accountability is not the same as fear.
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