Christian and Evolution

alexamasan · #1 31st October 2009, 01:23 PM

I don't understand how some people can say they are Christian and also believe in evolution. The bible clearly states that God created Man from the ground and Woman from his ribs. Evolution supports that man evolved from a more primitive primate.

I just can't understand how people can be so inconsistent with their religion and atheist often look at these people as representatives of the religion and judge their religion as so. I consider these kinds of Christians the Lukewarm type of person mentioned in Revelation when they were talking about the people of Laodicea.

Supreme · #2 31st October 2009, 01:58 PM

The bible clearly states that God created Man from the ground and Woman from his ribs

I've been waiting to use this quote from The Simpsons:

Yeah... well... the Bible says a lot of things.

fm107 · #3 31st October 2009, 04:34 PM

To say evolution happened is to distort the truth.

Remember this though, many can call themselves Christians - it doesn't mean to say they are though.

alexamasan · #4 1st November 2009, 02:36 PM

@xDenax

Too bad only Christians are allowed to reply to my post.

I go to bible studies and learn about why each book was written and understand what each verse means in the context that it was written. So in that context, you should take the bible pretty literally. If you don't, you are just making things up. The bible clearly states in genesis that God created man, and genesis is written as an account of what really happened. If you are a Christian and you don't accept what the bible says, then you are a terrible Christian.

And also, I am a Biology major, and I've been learning all about evolution ever since my freshman year, and I can tell you that the Bible and Evolution are inconsistent. There is absolutely no way you can believe in both. I did not just spend 5 minutes thinking on this.

Now, if you believe that you have a way to somehow mingle the two ideas together, I would like to hear that, though you should pm me and not reply here as your post may get deleted.

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Yeah... well... the Bible says a lot of things.

what is that suppose to mean?

drich0150 · #5 1st November 2009, 05:14 PM

If you are a Christian and you don't accept what the bible says, then you are a terrible Christian.

I consider these kinds of Christians the Lukewarm type of person mentioned in Revelation when they were talking about the people of Laodicea.

Once you get finished with the book of Genesis and revelations there is alittle bit written in Matthew about pulling the plank from your eye before you worry about the spec in your brothers eye..

ebia · #6 2nd November 2009, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by alexamasan

I don't understand how some people can say they are Christian and also believe in evolution. The bible clearly states that God created Man from the ground and Woman from his ribs. Evolution supports that man evolved from a more primitive primate.

Not everything in any text should be read woodenly literally.

I go to bible studies and learn about why each book was written and understand what each verse means in the context that it was written. So in that context, you should take the bible pretty literally.

Says who? You want to read it that way - be my guest.

If you don't, you are just making things up.

That is simply false.

The bible clearly states in genesis that God created man, and genesis is written as an account of what really happened.

Says who?

If you are a Christian and you don't accept what the bible says, then you are a terrible Christian.

I do believe what Scripture says, I just do not agree with what you think it means.

Adoniram · #7 2nd November 2009, 01:27 AM

Now, you see, that just seems a little strange to me. I assure you that I have put considerably more than "five minutes worth of thought into" the subject. For the most part, the Bible was written by simple men, most of them uneducated, who wrote in simple yet profound terms as they were guided by the Holy Spirit. It doesn't take a genius to understand the Bible's simple message. Certainly though, there is depth in those simple words that a lifetime of study cannot fully unlock.

As a Christian, I don't want to, neither do I need to "reconcile" or compromise my belief in the Bible and it's simple explanation of our origins. This world's science does not offer a "better" explanation, or one that is more right; it's merely different. I have done the research, and I have read the books, and what I've found is that the disciplines supporting the current ToE (I say current because, although generally it holds to the basic common descent concept, it's specifics change almost daily) make far too many assumptions for it to be taken seriously. It's really surprising, considering that they call it "science," that these assumptions are allowed to be maintained.

Quite frankly, even if I were not a Christian believing in the Bible, I would have a hard time accepting the ToE as fact.

Coralie · #8 2nd November 2009, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by alexamasan

I don't understand how some people can say they are Christian and also believe in evolution. The bible clearly states that God created Man from the ground and Woman from his ribs. Evolution supports that man evolved from a more primitive primate.

I just can't understand how people can be so inconsistent with their religion and atheist often look at these people as representatives of the religion and judge their religion as so. I consider these kinds of Christians the Lukewarm type of person mentioned in Revelation when they were talking about the people of Laodicea.

What's the question?

...if you're asking how a Christian can profess faith and accept that evolution probably occurred, that's pretty simple. The Bible is not to be taken literally, word for word. The Genesis story is an allegory of how human beings first became conscious, and rejected God for the first time.

Don't assume that because some Xians believe that the Bible is 100% literal (so when Jesus said "I am the gate" in John 10:9, he meant he was an actual gate, for example), that you're a "bad Xian" if you don't believe the same thing.

...also... are you seriously calling non-Creationist Xians "lukewarm" for not believing what you think "good Xians" are "supposed" to believe? How do Buddhists define a "good Xian"? Or even a "consistent" one?

Supreme · #9 2nd November 2009, 08:19 AM

The Greeks wrote plays, stories and theories that are still in common use amongst classical studies today. In those stories, the Greeks included philosophy, comedy, relationships and science. So I still think ancient mythology and the like has some place in our society.

Supreme · #10 2nd November 2009, 07:45 PM

I find most people who reject science are either ignorant or in denial. How can you deny facts? It makes no sense to me.