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6th November 2009, 02:36 PM
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7th November 2009, 03:49 AM
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Reps: 3,937,941,447,718,668 (power: 3,937,941,447,721) | | Originally Posted by higgs2  no they broke away from us. But they are always welcome back, our communion is open to them (and to the Orthodox as well). They broke away from us? When was that then? I have my history books here and nowhere can I find this event recorded. Indeed the history books tell me that it was in 1564, or there abouts that the Council of Trent advised the members of the new church formed there, to withdraw from Anglican Altars. In 1571, Pius the Fifth called his few supporters to leave English Altars, which they did, but nowhere can I find the English Church severing communion with anyone, or body!
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7th November 2009, 04:03 AM
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Reps: 3,937,941,447,718,668 (power: 3,937,941,447,721) | | Originally Posted by Basil the Great I realize that the Anglican Communion began as a result of breaking away from the RCC, The Anglican Church has never broken away from anyone as far as I remember. It has been the Catholic Church in Britain since the very first years after Christ's Crucifixtion. A whole host of early Christian writers attest to this as early as Tertullian. If we are to have a discussion between Churches, to my mind this is a fact that has to be faced. Tquestion of whether this has been done by the Bishops of the TAC, is doubtful .
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9th November 2009, 12:17 PM
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9th November 2009, 04:10 PM
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Reps: 5,085,360,269,248,712 (power: 5,085,360,269,264) | | Originally Posted by luckyfredsdad They broke away from us? When was that then? I have my history books here and nowhere can I find this event recorded. Indeed the history books tell me that it was in 1564, or there abouts that the Council of Trent advised the members of the new church formed there, to withdraw from Anglican Altars. In 1571, Pius the Fifth called his few supporters to leave English Altars, which they did, but nowhere can I find the English Church severing communion with anyone, or body!
That's what I'm saying.
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9th November 2009, 06:27 PM
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I left the RCC and spent a few years as a seeker. I attended services at a two Orthodox Churches in that time. Both of them were very ethnic. Since I am neither ethnically Greek nor Serbian, I did not feel welcome at either Church.
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9th November 2009, 11:54 PM
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Reps: 1,488,634,097,029 (power: 1,488,634,106) | | Originally Posted by longhair75 To answer the OP:
I left the RCC and spent a few years as a seeker. I attended services at a two Orthodox Churches in that time. Both of them were very ethnic. Since I am neither ethnically Greek nor Serbian, I did not feel welcome at either Church.
Sometime I would like to go to the western rite orthodox parish (St. Vincent of Lerins) in North "O" to see if it is any different.
Regarding the Apostolic Constitution which came out today, I think it confirms that despite all the media hoopla, I don't really see what the big deal is. Except for the current crop of married Anglican ministers who convert, they're still not going to allow married men to become priests. |
10th November 2009, 01:05 PM
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Reps: 45,054,887,837,835,648 (power: 45,054,887,837,838) | | Originally Posted by longhair75 To answer the OP:
I left the RCC and spent a few years as a seeker. I attended services at a two Orthodox Churches in that time. Both of them were very ethnic. Since I am neither ethnically Greek nor Serbian, I did not feel welcome at either Church.
Lord have mercy on us! That is such a shame.
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10th November 2009, 04:52 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | The Eastern Orthodox Church? With all due respect but NO NO NO....been there done that. I could write volumes on the subject but I'll keep my peace in public. Whomever wants to know more of their canon law and practices however can ask me through e-mail. I have no objection for people to convert -don't take me wrong- but at least, in my opinion, they have the right to know how un-biblical and contradictory the Rudder is and how ethnicity -supposedly condemned- has prevailed over Christianity, how wars are sanctioned, how hypocrisy, power games, politics, corruption and personality cult are now the norm. No way the early Church fathers would be part of that branch today.
It's time for true Traditionalists to sustain the ancient path by their own efforts if necessary instead of joining a denomination that has the name but not the practical qualifications to use it. Sorry if I sound harsh but it's neither the Bible or the early Fathers that have to change. To phrase it better: it's the EOC' own fault that the truly Orthodox and Apostolic Faith has been distorted within her body.
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11th November 2009, 01:39 AM
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overall the orthodox church is much closer to anglicanism than rome is
the problem for anglicans is of course the orthodox positions toward women and homosexuals
perhaps the orthodox will one day open up toward women and homosexuals, until then unity would be difficult
without anglicans being forced to leave behind large chunks of their brothers and sisters
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