The Unforgivable Sin

PrincetonGuy · #11 4th November 2009, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Frosty One

Hi everyone. I have some questions about the unforgivable sin. Here goes:

Can a Christian commit the unforgivable sin?

If a non-Christian commits the unforgivable sin and then is saved, is that sin wiped away?

I would also assume that if a Christian can and does commit the unforgivable sin then they cannot be forgiven due to the sin being unforgivable. Am I correct?

What exactly is the unforgivable sin?

Why is it called blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?

Thanks in advance!

If you will ask a thousand Baptist pastors and teachers these questions, you can expect to get a thousand different answers. Baptists, not to mention other Christians, are all over the place on these issues, from one extreme to the other, with most somewhere in between.

cassel · #12 4th November 2009, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by PrincetonGuy

If you will ask a thousand Baptist pastors and teachers these questions, you can expect to get a thousand different answers. Baptists, not to mention other Christians, are all over the place on these issues, from one extreme to the other, with most somewhere in between.

That is often true and it makes the one who is troubled even more troubled ,,,they are allot like doctotrs really ...one says this the other says that ,,,you dont know what to believe

PrincetonGuy · #13 4th November 2009, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by cassel

That is often true and it makes the one who is troubled even more troubled ,,,they are allot like doctotrs really ...one says this the other says that ,,,you dont know what to believe

This is why a very careful and prayerful study of the Scriptures is so very important; men make mistakes, but the Scriptures have been passed through the fires of testing and found to be true and trustworthy.

SparkysMama · #14 27th November 2009, 08:01 PM

I haven't watched the videos yet, but will soon. The unforgivable sin(I think) is giving credit to the devil, instead of to Jesus.
I don't think a real Christian can commit this.

oneofchrists · #15 27th November 2009, 09:01 PM

I was always taught that a Born Again Believer cannot commit the unforgivable Sin , I have been taught that one who rejects Christ, His or Her whole life and then dies, has committed the unpardonable Sin "blasphemy againsy His Holy Spirit"

RobertZ · #16 27th November 2009, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by oneofchrists

I was always taught that a Born Again Believer cannot commit the unforgivable Sin , I have been taught that one who rejects Christ, His or Her whole life and then dies, has committed the unpardonable Sin "blasphemy againsy His Holy Spirit"

It isnt rejecting Jesus until death, the Holy Spirit can and does stop dealing with some people long before death. Its after the point that Holy Spirit no longer shows the sinner his need for salvation that he has committed the unforgivable sin.

oneofchrists · #17 27th November 2009, 10:33 PM

Hello Robert! I hope You are getting along alright and that some of the issues You were having are getting straightened out?

I don't agree, I feel as long as a soul is alive on terra firma that soul is able to return to Christ and Be forgiven..."the unforgivable sin" is only applied after the stiff necked and unrepentant have died and are at the judgment seat awaiting their verdict from Christ.

I was taught that as long as a person is alive there is forgiveness of Sin for that person. Providing that He "acknowledge" His Sin before God, (Romans 3:23)(Romans 6:23) and that Person "Believes" in His or Her heart That Jesus did die for their Sins(Romans 5:8) (Romans 8:1-2)(john 3:16)

and that He or She call on Jesus and Confess Him as lLord and Before God the Father and also before men.(Romans 10:9)

all that Soul needs to do is turn about and simply ask and acknowledge,Believe, Call and Confess Jesus is Lord before God and Men....That is what I was taught and that is what I believe.....I started a thread about can a Sociopath become a Christian and the answers that were given were all similar to Mine , Check that thread out if You have not already...Bye for now Robert and May God's Grace Be rich in Your life ...Dave

oneofchrists · #18 27th November 2009, 10:35 PM

I need Scripture Robert... Scripture!

RobertZ · #19 27th November 2009, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by oneofchrists

Hello Robert! I hope You are getting along alright and that some of the issues You were having are getting straightened out?

I don't agree, I feel as long as a soul is alive on terra firma that soul is able to return to Christ and Be forgiven..."the unforgivable sin" is only applied after the stiff necked and unrepentant have died and are at the judgment seat awaiting their verdict from Christ.

I was taught that as long as a person is alive there is forgiveness of Sin for that person. Providing that He "acknowledge" His Sin before God, (Romans 3:23)(Romans 6:23) and that Person "Believes" in His or Her heart That Jesus did die for their Sins(Romans 5:8) (Romans 8:1-2)(john 3:16)

and that He or She call on Jesus and Confess Him as lLord and Before God the Father and also before men.(Romans 10:9)

all that Soul needs to do is turn about and simply ask and acknowledge,Believe, Call and Confess Jesus is Lord before God and Men....That is what I was taught and that is what I believe.....I started a thread about can a Sociopath become a Christian and the answers that were given were all similar to Mine , Check that thread out if You have not already...Bye for now Robert and May God's Grace Be rich in Your life ...Dave

I dont believe that a person can just repent and be saved any time that they please either and thats why the scripture tells us "Today if you hear his voice harden not your heart" Apart from the work of the Holy Spirit it is impossible for one to repent and turn to Christ for salvation.

"Then they will call to me but I will not answer; they will look for me but will not find me. Since they hated knowledge and did not choose to fear the LORD, since they would not accept my advice and spurned my rebuke, they will eat the fruit of their ways and be filled with the fruit of their schemes. Proverbs 1:28-1:31"

"Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done." (Romans 1:28)

"And the Lord said--my Spirit shall not always strive with man." Gen. 6:3.

"It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace." Heb 6:4-6

GrampaJeff · #20 27th November 2009, 11:57 PM

"Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done." (Romans 1:28)
The key word here is KNOWLEDGE. I am at the belief that today's spreading of the true gospel has reached most all of the world. Many people have heard the gospel message of repentance and have/are rejecting the calling of the Holy Spirit in their lives.
A person can live with the knowledge of repentance (knowing what to do to be saved) but refusing to act upon this as the Spirit convicts throughout their lives leaves them walking upon dangerous ground. My son for one. He knows the truth...he knows what he must do to be saved and has/is being convicted in his life. He believes he has time and that he will turn to Christ before he leaves this world. He is walking on dangerous ground! He KNOWS....has the KNOWLEDGE and has tasted or has experienced the goodness of God in my life, his mother's, and many around him yet refuses to yield to the Spirits conviction in his own life even after admitting being under conviction!
As you have rightfully quoted: "And the Lord said--my Spirit shall not always strive with man." Gen. 6:3. He knows what is right, yet refuses, so far, the calling of God.