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31st October 2009, 02:05 AM
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__________________ Sabertooth "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." 2Corinthians 10:5
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24th February 2010, 05:31 AM
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Reps: 14,125,312,474,842,446 (power: 14,125,312,474,844) | | | Even green vaccines are dangerious. From what most the health experts I know tell me its the fact they use aborted baby tissue to make these vaccines that causes the most problems. And the MMR vaccines are the primary cause of Autism.
Notice how when they doubled the MMR dosage in 1989 the rate of Autism skyrocketed. |
24th February 2010, 10:33 AM
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Reps: 10,581,739,852,921,624 (power: 10,581,739,852,929) | | | It is the "R"/Rubella vaccine (of the three) that uses the fetal cells. Not so in the "green" version. Parents will still have to be prayerful & careful of the vaccines themselves, but we will no longer have to violate our consciences in the process.
Edit: If we had that choice, we would probably still wait until our children were a little older than recommended. They have not had any further reactions to tetanus nor flu vaccines which contain thimerosal, but are given later in life (and are free of fetal cells). It should be noted that these new vaccines will be thimerosal-free just to be on the safe side.
__________________ Sabertooth "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." 2Corinthians 10:5
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24th February 2010, 03:59 PM
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Reps: 14,125,312,474,842,446 (power: 14,125,312,474,844) | | Originally Posted by Sabertooth  It is the "R"/Rubella vaccine (of the three) that uses the fetal cells. Not so in the "green" version. Parents will still have to be prayerful & careful of the vaccines themselves, but we will no longer have to violate our consciences in the process.
Edit: If we had that choice, we would probably still wait until our children were a little older than recommended. They have not had any further reactions to tetanus nor flu vaccines which contain thimerosal, but are given later in life (and are free of fetal cells). It should be noted that these new vaccines will be thimerosal-free just to be on the safe side.
Do you know what the ingredients of these vaccines will be? And how easily aviliable they'll be to people? When did they come out? I've heard almost nothing about them.
Personally I'm against all vaccines as I find them to be risky and unnecassary but I am curious to see if these new 'green' ones will cause less sife effects. |
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Reps: 10,581,739,852,921,624 (power: 10,581,739,852,929) | | Originally Posted by GodbetheGlory Do you know what the ingredients of these vaccines will be? And how easily aviliable they'll be to people? When did they come out? I've heard almost nothing about them.
Personally I'm against all vaccines as I find them to be risky and unnecassary but I am curious to see if these new 'green' ones will cause less sife effects.
They answer some of these questions at AVM Biotechnology Many have already been used successfully in other countries.
Also, if you contact them they will place you on an email newsletter list to keep folks aware of when they come to market. There is also an interesting article at Children of God for Life & AVM Biotechnology about them. Their non-profit branch, Sound Choice Pharmaceutical Instute, will be offering a seal for other ethical medical products to take out some of the guessswork and misinformation.
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Reps: 5,717,399,141,461 (power: 0) | | | Okay, lets get something clear, first, MMR vaccines have NO connection what so ever with autism. This has been verified on many accounts and it has never been debunked by any science. Ever. The reason for the 89 rise of autistic is that, that is when it became non-taboo to go to a shrink, coupled with the fact that we have recieved greater knowledge of the human brain as we went along.
I would like to hear your arguments for thinking that MMR causes autism.
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Reps: 10,581,739,852,921,624 (power: 10,581,739,852,929) | | Originally Posted by TheDizzy Okay, lets get something clear, first, MMR vaccines have NO connection what so ever with autism. This has been verified on many accounts and it has never been debunked by any science. Ever. The reason for the 89 rise of autistic is that, that is when it became non-taboo to go to a shrink, coupled with the fact that we have recieved greater knowledge of the human brain as we went along.
I would like to hear your arguments for thinking that MMR causes autism.
You won't hear them from me. My main objections are ethical in nature.
Being on the spectrum myself, I don't necessarily believe that Aspergers is a defect. But the unprecedented increase of severe cognitive deficiency IS a defect, whether the person is on the spectrum or not. It is recognized readily without the aid of "shrink" and it is THAT condition that demands an environmental inquiry.
__________________ Sabertooth "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." 2Corinthians 10:5
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2nd March 2010, 07:36 AM
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Reps: 5,717,399,141,461 (power: 0) | | | While I respect your opinion, I think I can give you an explanation. The reason that stem cells are being used is that they are the most adaptable and versatile cells found. Period.
While it may offend your religious views, which you ofcourse are entitled to, we simply could not continue on developing new vaccines and medicines without stem cells
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__________________ Sabertooth "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." 2Corinthians 10:5
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__________________ Sabertooth "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." 2Corinthians 10:5
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