Do Dolphins go to Heaven?

Duh, that's because God was speaking to Bronze Age primitives on morality and spirituality. What possible reason could He have for dumping naturalistic knowledge on them? It would have been totally irrelevant His goals.

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"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for ever should we fail- should we fall- we will know that we have lived." --Anomander Rake.

"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." --Plato

"I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and He heard me out of His holy hill." Psalm 3:4

"The virtuous man is never a novice in worldly things." Marcus Valerius Martialis

Dolphins:
"'Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams, you may eat any that have fins and scales. But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales--whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water--you are to detest." (Leviticus 11:9-10)

DNA:
"because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor." (Hebrews 7:10)

"From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth;" (Acts 17:26)

"Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good." (Genesis 1:11,12)


"And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good." (Genesis 1:25)

Electrons:
"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible." (Hebrews 11:3)

"And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness." (Genesis 1:3-4)

"Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;" (Job 38:25)

(Lightning sends out leaders, then travels along this path.)


Other things in the Bible not discovered till later:

Ocean Currents:
"...whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas." (Psalm 8:8)
Discovered by Matthew Maury, who sought out what it referred to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Fontaine_Maury

Wind Circulation:
"The wind goes toward the south,
And turns around to the north;
The wind whirls about continually,
And comes again on its circuit." (Ecclesiastes 1:6)


That Air Has a Weight:
"To establish a weight for the wind,
And apportion the waters by measure." (Job 28:25)

The fact that air has weight was proven scientifically only about 300 years ago. The relative weights of air and water are needed for the efficient functioning of the world’s hydrologic cycle, which in turn sustains life on the earth

Evaporation and the Water Cycle:
"He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth;
He makes lightning for the rain;
He brings the wind out of His treasuries." (Psalm 135:7)

"When He utters His voice,
There is a multitude of waters in the heavens:
'And He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth.
He makes lightning for the rain,
He brings the wind out of His treasuries.'" (Jeremiah 10:13)

"For He draws up drops of water,
Which distill as rain from the mist,
Which the clouds drop down
And pour abundantly on man.
Indeed, can anyone understand the spreading of clouds,
The thunder from His canopy?" (Job 36:27-29)

"All the rivers run into the sea,
Yet the sea is not full;
To the place from which the rivers come,
There they return again." (Ecclesiastes 1:7)

The Sphericity of the Earth:
"It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in." (Isaiah 40:22)

Nuclear Processes:
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up." (2 Peter 3:10)

Sure, but it's also interesting that much of the so-called morality Yahweh handed down back then is frankly immoral by today's standards. The OT condones slavery, the killing disobedient children, witches, and gays. Anyone doing those things today would be jailed thankfully.

Any set of moral edicts given to us by a allegedly morally perfect being should itself be perfect. Yet, clearly by most standards modern morality is far superior to what Yahweh handed down. This suggests to me that the morality content of the OT was also created by Bronze Age people, not a god.

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Its very easy to read into scripture what was never intended. Especailly when you snip out lines of scripture from their context.

1. A circle is 2-dimensional; it is not a sphere. The Hebrews had a word for "ball," which could have been used here.

2. The "elements" here are NOT what we call elements today.

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"It is not the obligation of the State to reconcile various faiths with reality. Do it yourself." -Atomweaver

"We have designed our civilization based on science and technology and at the same time arranged things so that almost no one understands anything at all about science and technology. This is a clear prescription for disaster."
- Carl Sagan (Demon Haunted World)

Only if you're Catholic

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"We can easily forgive a child that is afraid of the dark, the real tragedy is when people are afraid of the light"
-Plato

Life in Heaven would be pretty much non-life and totally boring with out Dolphins and other critters about.

Of course Dolphins have souls. The soul of every being is an activity of God.

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The most excellent being in the universe is the universe itself. - Thomas Berry

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We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is no accident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.

Well according to Revelation
Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Their won't be any sea around for them. So if there are any, they'll have to be kept in pools, no swimming out in the sea.

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What textbook is that AV? I submit to you that this is your "infallable interpretation," is it not?

That's what we would call "sound doctrine."

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Seriously, don't start this up again.

LightSeaker-
Do you think animals (like dolphins) are subject to going to hell as well?
Dolphins kill for sport, sometimes even their own young. Chimps will occasionally pull a baby (chimp or human, documented incidents in both cases) from it's mothers arms and devour it. They (dolphins especially) are smart enough to "know better" it's clearly more of a cultural thing, but sin doesn't know culture does it?

But what about animals who clearly aren't sentient. Crabs practice cannibalism, there are jellyfish that kill people, not out of malice, but just as a reaction. Is that considered a "sin"?

Where is the line drawn?

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"We can easily forgive a child that is afraid of the dark, the real tragedy is when people are afraid of the light"
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