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Originally Posted by ThankGodforGod View Post
If you are so sure that we are in the last days then fedex me your life savings in cash.
OK I will, send me your bank a/c number and particulars and I will send you my savings.
If you don't believe we are in the last days, you would believe that.
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[quote=ThankGodforGod;53401273]
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I just found out that Michael W. Smith sold out to the "Hannity take money from gullible people who like to drink beer and talk about freedom" tour, he is out in my book.
DO us all a favor and show us the source of your post here... thanks

this is what I found...The concerts aren't until August 2009, but the line up is announced, and CCM legend Michael W. Smith will be joining Billy Ray Cyrus, Charlie Daniels, Lee Greenwood and Oliver North for Sean Hannity's Freedom Concerts. The shows take place...
Michael W. Smith joins Sean Hannity's 2009 Freedom Concerts - Comments - Gospel Soundcheck

Smith Heads out to Perform on All Eight of Sean Hannity's "2009 Freedom Concerts,"
Also Featuring Billy Ray Cyrus, Charlie Daniels, Lee Greenwood and Oliver North.

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Last days????

ILL go one further than that...we are either already in the very beginning of the GT or are RIGHT next to it in less that3 years...

We can clearly see the signs of the times are VERY ripe...

It is amazing how anyone here cannot see that we are in the worst trouble that this planet has had in all history... not that this is as bad in some ways as was the Great Depression... but based of people per capita (per person) we are at a rate of depression of greater proportions in that there are now 3. + Million in the US compared to 1.2 back in the 30'
THAT is 2.4 times greater per person...
Population of USA in 1933 - 125,578,763 divided by 25% = 13,194,690.75

Population of USA in 2009 - 307,853,491 divided by 17.5 (the way it was calculated 80 years ago)



307,853,491 divided by 17.5 = 17,591,628.05+

By using the same way that they calculated unemployment back in the 1930’ almost 4.5 million more people are unemployed than back on the 30’

Even if the U-6 count was used, which is 13.5, the count would be far greater than the total amount of unemployed people during 1933

My point is this… there are more people out of work today that there were back in the 1930’…difference is? There are 2.4+ times more people here now and that makes it even more of a tribulation that when there was only 1.2 million people… thus the desparation, tribulational rate per capita is 2.4 TIMES greater than the Great Depression era.

YES, I know that the reported unemployment rate is being reported as being 7.2
BUT that is the u-5 rate and does not completely reflect the whole picture

Look at the chart on this link and you will see that what is being said, is do.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm

And this is just the unemployed in the USA... do that multiplication on any of the other debacles that have been ever present with us since the last 18 months… foreclosures, business failures… and you have a time RIGHT NOW that in retrospect, is 2.4 times greater than the GREAT Depression.

Tribulation? For sure!

Great Tribulation? We will see very soon...very, very soon.

Till then we are the only ones left here to tell others who do not know about Lord Jesus and what He can do for them, and it is our responsibility to let them know that there are still seats available at the dinner table…
One thing, they have to believe that Jesus is the Son of GOD, that GOD did in fact raise Him from the dead and then one other thing, they need to repent, turn away from their sins and become saved by, through and in Lord Jesus, Gods Christ for all mankind

PS… they really need to be able to see the difference between us and the rest of this world too.
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Originally Posted by garry2 View Post
OK I will, send me your bank a/c number and particulars and I will send you my savings.
If you don't believe we are in the last days, you would believe that.
You are agreeing to fedex me your life savings, you won't need my acct info, just put all the cash in a box.
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DO us all a favor and show us the source of your post here... thanks

this is what I found...The concerts aren't until August 2009, but the line up is announced, and CCM legend Michael W. Smith will be joining Billy Ray Cyrus, Charlie Daniels, Lee Greenwood and Oliver North for Sean Hannity's Freedom Concerts. The shows take place...
Michael W. Smith joins Sean Hannity's 2009 Freedom Concerts - Comments - Gospel Soundcheck

Smith Heads out to Perform on All Eight of Sean Hannity's "2009 Freedom Concerts,"
Also Featuring Billy Ray Cyrus, Charlie Daniels, Lee Greenwood and Oliver North.

Jesusfreakhideout.com Music News, July 2009: MICHAEL W. SMITH'S "NEW HALLELUJAH WORLD TOUR" ROCKS 12 COUNTRIES IN EUROPE ALONE

I listen to AM talk radio when nothing else is on (I turn it off after the first factual error I catch, I don't listen long) and they mentioned it. I googled the 2 names and got tons of hits.

Michael W. Smith joins Sean Hannity's 2009 Freedom Concerts - Gospel Soundcheck

Hannity, Rush and the rest will pretty clearly tell you that they are entertainers first and foremost. This is why they charge you for premium access to their site, sell everything from Xmas ornaments to thongs and hold concerts like this.

They even mentioned on the radio that Platinum and Gold level tickets will be on sale soon!
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Originally Posted by B1inHim View Post
Last days????

ILL go one further than that...we are either already in the very beginning of the GT or are RIGHT next to it in less that3 years...

We can clearly see the signs of the times are VERY ripe...

It is amazing how anyone here cannot see that we are in the worst trouble that this planet has had in all history... not that this is as bad in some ways as was the Great Depression... but based of people per capita (per person) we are at a rate of depression of greater proportions in that there are now 3. + Million in the US compared to 1.2 back in the 30'
THAT is 2.4 times greater per person...
Population of USA in 1933 - 125,578,763 divided by 25% = 13,194,690.75

Population of USA in 2009 - 307,853,491 divided by 17.5 (the way it was calculated 80 years ago)



307,853,491 divided by 17.5 = 17,591,628.05+

By using the same way that they calculated unemployment back in the 1930’ almost 4.5 million more people are unemployed than back on the 30’

Even if the U-6 count was used, which is 13.5, the count would be far greater than the total amount of unemployed people during 1933

My point is this… there are more people out of work today that there were back in the 1930’…difference is? There are 2.4+ times more people here now and that makes it even more of a tribulation that when there was only 1.2 million people… thus the desparation, tribulational rate per capita is 2.4 TIMES greater than the Great Depression era.

YES, I know that the reported unemployment rate is being reported as being 7.2
BUT that is the u-5 rate and does not completely reflect the whole picture

Look at the chart on this link and you will see that what is being said, is do.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm

And this is just the unemployed in the USA... do that multiplication on any of the other debacles that have been ever present with us since the last 18 months… foreclosures, business failures… and you have a time RIGHT NOW that in retrospect, is 2.4 times greater than the GREAT Depression.

Tribulation? For sure!

Great Tribulation? We will see very soon...very, very soon.

Till then we are the only ones left here to tell others who do not know about Lord Jesus and what He can do for them, and it is our responsibility to let them know that there are still seats available at the dinner table…
One thing, they have to believe that Jesus is the Son of GOD, that GOD did in fact raise Him from the dead and then one other thing, they need to repent, turn away from their sins and become saved by, through and in Lord Jesus, Gods Christ for all mankind

PS… they really need to be able to see the difference between us and the rest of this world too.
Where did you come up with this "rate of depression" calculation?

Modern medicine and sanitation make this one of the best times to be alive in all of history. Ever wonder why we have the longest lifespan now than we have ever had?

The smallpox vaccine alone saves around 11 million lives and we are on the cusp of defeating Malaria which has killed more people than any other organism on the planet. I can promise you that as technology progresses our species will have it better and better.
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Originally Posted by ThankGodforGod View Post
Where did you come up with this "rate of depression" calculation?

Modern medicine and sanitation make this one of the best times to be alive in all of history. Ever wonder why we have the longest lifespan now than we have ever had?

The smallpox vaccine alone saves around 11 million lives and we are on the cusp of defeating Malaria which has killed more people than any other organism on the planet. I can promise you that as technology progresses our species will have it better and better.
I linked where I got it from...

Living longer is not good if your savings , 401ks and all else are beoing spent on daily life...
over 40% of this population die every second even with all these wonderful inovations
World Vital Events

So what you are saying is that everything is going to get better and better?

You seem to not be watching what is going on ALL around and are looking at this from the 1.5% of peoples eyes who live in a palace with guards and survailence equipment that has motion detectors and quick response units... do you live in the USA?
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If you are so sure that we are in the last days then fedex me your life savings in cash.
Actually, I hold the historicist view, that the Revelation has been unfolding for centuries. But we are indeed in the last days of it. We are now experiencing the 7 last plagues. The Battle of Ar Mageddon is next so get ready. And thanks, but I need my money. The Good News is, a glorious 1000 year reign of the Church follows Ar Mageddon.
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In all the years I have been studying the Bible this is the ONLY place I have ever seen anyone call Moscow the great whore of Babylon. It just does not fit.

'7 last plagues' going on now? No way.

Interpreter wrote 'Actually, I hold the historicist view, that the Revelation has been unfolding for centuries.'

Now I would say that there is a measure of truth in this, Revelation has a partial fulfillment in that the 7 letters were written to real churches working in Johns day. And the throne room is real however the specific event John described , it was yet future when he saw it, is likely still yet future, although it could be happening now or in the very recent past and we are yet unaware of it. How much time exists between the opening of the first seal in heaven and its beginning here on earth is a speculative matter.

I feel the white horse riders title has been revealed and is becoming more and more evident to Christians in this day and hour although many in the past have had the same thought. He will arise out of the religion that controls most of the Middle east (after all that geographical area is the primary focal point of the Scripture not Europe as some like to teach) this religious force is expecting a deliverer and when he comes out, manifests leadership and instigates a covenant with Israel it would be then that the final 7 years time clock is initiated. I think it may be a sound assumption that when Israel and its current flock of enemies are all saying , "peace and safety' that this world don't have long!
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Originally Posted by B1inHim View Post
I linked where I got it from...

Living longer is not good if your savings , 401ks and all else are beoing spent on daily life...
over 40% of this population die every second even with all these wonderful inovations
World Vital Events

So what you are saying is that everything is going to get better and better?

You seem to not be watching what is going on ALL around and are looking at this from the 1.5% of peoples eyes who live in a palace with guards and survailence equipment that has motion detectors and quick response units... do you live in the USA?
So in your mind it is better to die young of something preventable than get old and spend your money? The smallpox vaccine alone saves about 7 million people a year, that is a good thing in my book.

Explain to me how you can lose 40% of something every second and still have any of it at all at the end of a minute.

I live in the US and I have CCTV cameras at my home and office, all of which I can see from my iPhone. What does that have to do with anything though?
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