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View Poll Results: Which do you think brings more joy to the world?
Believing God and His account of His own Creation is the beginning knowledge of all truth. Only the Creator can answer all of the biggest and most important questions. God said that His Word would endure forever - it has - it will. God's Word Stands - man's folly falls. It's just as simple as this.
Isaiah 52:6-7 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I. 7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
Romans 10:14-15 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
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Colossians 3:15-17 KJV And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
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__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
Which in your opinion brings more joy to the world?
A belief in creationism or a knowledge of evolution?
It's a silly question. It does not matter which theory brings more "joy", but which is correct. Creationism was shown to be a false scientific theory by 1832, and is even worse theology.
I would note that, when creationism was the reigning scientific theory, people lived shorter, more brutish lives than they do now. As someone pointed out, the advances in medicine due to evolution alone have brought millions of people joy as they or their loved ones were cured of diseases.
__________________ "If sound science appears to contradict the Bible, we may be sure that it is our interpretation of the Bible that is at fault." Christian Observer, 1832, pg. 437
"Christians should look on evolution simply as the method by which God works." Rev. James McCosh, theologian and President of Princeton, 1890
So I was in my Christian Foundations class today, and my professor, who is a Doctor of Theology, has been a Methodist pastor for 17 years, and is now Dean of the School of Theology, told us in class today as we were talking about interpreting Scripture and how the New Testament Canon was developed:
"Now, obviously, for example, Evolution happened...."
Oh snap.
And my Anatomy Professor, who has her PhD in Biology, we were talking about human development in class, and she picked up her Bible and started discussing some theories about how us humans would have lost such an advantageous trait such as lots of body hair (since we were discussing the Arrector Pilli muscle, which causes goosebumps and is fairly useless with human's minimal body hair) and she read out of Genesis, then said:
"But, of course this is clearly allegorical..."
I thought I'd just submit that, I have two Christian professors with doctorates, in Theology and Biology who both are quite confident in the fact of Evolution. There was no disagreement in either class, by the way.
__________________ "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for ever should we fail- should we fall- we will know that we have lived." --Anomander Rake.
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." --Plato
"I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and He heard me out of His holy hill." Psalm 3:4
"The virtuous man is never a novice in worldly things." Marcus Valerius Martialis
Believing God and His account of His own Creation is the beginning knowledge of all truth.
Which account are we supposed to believe? There are 3 accounts in Genesis and they contradict.
BTW, why are we not supposed to believe God's own Creation?
God said that His Word would endure forever - it has - it will. God's Word Stands - man's folly falls. It's just as simple as this.
And what is the Word in scripture? Is it scripture itself? It appears that you are engaging in some human folly here. At least. It appears that you are engaging in some violation of the First Commandment.
One piece of man's folly was creationism. God in His Creation showed it to be false. Too bad some people don't listen to God.
__________________ "If sound science appears to contradict the Bible, we may be sure that it is our interpretation of the Bible that is at fault." Christian Observer, 1832, pg. 437
"Christians should look on evolution simply as the method by which God works." Rev. James McCosh, theologian and President of Princeton, 1890
Believing God and His account of His own Creation is the beginning knowledge of all truth. Only the Creator can answer all of the biggest and most important questions. God said that His Word would endure forever - it has - it will. God's Word Stands - man's folly falls. It's just as simple as this.
I agree, too bad as a fallible human being none of us actually know God's pure Word, only our own interpretation of it.
I also agree with you that man's folly falls. Radiometric dating, geology and the fossil record has shown that the man's folly known as Creationism falls
__________________ "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for ever should we fail- should we fall- we will know that we have lived." --Anomander Rake.
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." --Plato
"I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and He heard me out of His holy hill." Psalm 3:4
"The virtuous man is never a novice in worldly things." Marcus Valerius Martialis
I didn't know the world could experience Joy.
I knew people could, but the planet?
Joy to the world, the Lord is come.
Let earth receive her King.
Let every heart, prepare Him room.
And Heaven and angels sing, and Heaven and angels sing,
And Heaven and Heaven and angels sing.
No they don't believe it do they? why should they? it's the biggest cock and bull story ever to be written, only a fool would even consider believing it.
Look what it has done to you. It has led you into false idol worship. It's not too late to come back.
As to Romans 10:17, you seem to have skipped over Romans 10:9
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. "
THIS is the essence of Christianity. Not harping on the "word". Christianity is about a man, not about a book.
__________________ "If sound science appears to contradict the Bible, we may be sure that it is our interpretation of the Bible that is at fault." Christian Observer, 1832, pg. 437
"Christians should look on evolution simply as the method by which God works." Rev. James McCosh, theologian and President of Princeton, 1890
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