Which brings more joy to the world?

Originally Posted by Split Rock

Are you admitting that you worship The Bible as your god?

There are some questions I just plain refuse to answer.

Originally Posted by Split Rock

That's why you guys say that Christianity is not a religion, but a person relationship with Jesus.

Yup.

Originally Posted by Split Rock

Of course, now I understand! You cannot worship Jesus, if you worship The Bible instead!

It's important to you guys that we be guilty of worshipping the Bible, isn't it?

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Does the question make you uncomfortable? Most people wouldn't have any trouble denying that the Bible is their idol.

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Live as though you were to die tomorrow.
Learn as though you were to live forever.
-Mahatma Gandhi

Posts like that leave me dumsstruck for while. It would be so easy to say "People should think before they post", but experience has taught me that people DO think, post such nonsense, and see no problem with it. They really believe they are right.

But they aren´t.

This is so wrong on so many levels that it isn´t easy to unravel the convoluted reasoning, unlogical thoughts and straightforward lies behind statements like these.

Are people who think the Bible is "just another book" bound to "eradicate the world of it"?
No, they aren´t. So it is not a sign of "holiness" or "divine protection" to cite the "failure" of something that wasn´t even attempted.

Did some people try to "eradicate" the Bible?
Possible. Did they fail? Obviously. But they didn´t fail against some supernatural protection of the "Holy Word of God"... they failed against other humans who defied their plans.
So it is also not a sign of "divine protection" if the "Bible supporters" have to rely on quite human means to achive their goals.

Is "trying to eradicate the world of it" a goal worthy or reasonable to follow in regard of something you consider "just a book"?
If that was so... where are all the attempts of Christians to rid the world of the Qu'ran, the Vedes or any other Holy Book? Don´t they consider these works to be "just another book"?

And if people really try that - let´s say all the creationists attempts to "eradicate the world of Darwinism" - why do they think they failed in this regard? "Origin of species" is still around and gets read. As are all the mentioned "Holy Books". Do these Christians think that they have a similar "divine protection" as their own Bible?

I´d say that there is one obvious explanation for the mindset that produces fallacies like that: the strong belief that "who is not for us is against us". Disagreement is not reconcilable... it is a sign that those who disagree with you are set to destroy you utterly.

As long as people cannot but think of those who disagree as "the enemy", they will never know peace in their own mind. They must set out to make enemies, just to prove their own mindset correct.

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Hier sitz´ich, forme Menschen
Nach meinem Bilde,
Ein Geschlecht, das mir gleich sei,
Zu leiden, zu weinen,
Zu genießen und zu freuen sich
Und dein nicht zu achten,
Wie ich!

(Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: Prometheus)

What are you trying to do here, Freodin?

Sit in a chair and talk It to death?

Whole empires have invested big chunks of their assets into getting rid of the Bible --- and failed.

The Bible still shines over their graves today.

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I´d say that "whole empires" is quite an exaggeration. What comes to mind are the - often cited "evil atheistic" - communist states of China and the USSR.

But, and I have to repeat me previous post here...

They also tried to get rid of the Qu`ran. And failed. And the Qu`ran still shines over thier (at least in communist Russia`s case) graves today.

Why? Bolded and emphazised: WHY???

They also tried to get rid of "bourgoise" Darwinism. And yet the Darwin-based Theory of Evolution "shines over their graves" while their favoured Lysenkonism is quite dead and buried.

Why? Bolded and emphazised: WHY???

"The Bible" had also to rely on humans - either underground believers or new missionaries - to survive.

Where is the "divine protection" here? WHY DOES THE DIVINE BIBLE NEED HUMANS TO PROTECT IT???

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Hier sitz´ich, forme Menschen
Nach meinem Bilde,
Ein Geschlecht, das mir gleich sei,
Zu leiden, zu weinen,
Zu genießen und zu freuen sich
Und dein nicht zu achten,
Wie ich!

(Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: Prometheus)

Neither. May be you are wrong.

For example, Nova Scotia at Canada today could be referred as a mountain called the Granville Mountains, which was a major mountain range in the world, according to geologist, about 1 billion years ago. (You can't win in geology when I am around. Right? )

So, simply use your example, which says: The Bible is a book and is the Words of God.

Skip the moderns --- I was referring specifically to the Roman Empire. The Bible started Its journey long before the Qu'ran and Darwin's The Preservation of Favoured Races came out.

Instead of pointing fingers elsewhere, how about addressing my point?

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Yeah, they really tried to crush it didn't they? Making it their state religion and shoehorning all their festivals into it, as well as picking and choosing what books went into the Bible or not?

Those dastards!

How about addressing the Koran point, perhaps? Or for any other religious text?

ETA: Nevermind, just saw the different spelling of Koran. The point still stands, however.

Pointing fingers elsewhere?

Perhaps you cannot understand this, but I am addressing your point. You claim that the "survival" of the Bible is evidence that it is something other than "just a book".

So you must adress the fact that the Bible is not alone in this feat, or accept that all the mentioned texts are also something other than "just a book".

Or, and this is my point which you so cunningly failed to address, you have to face the fact that being "just a book" has no relevance on the ability to "survive".

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Hier sitz´ich, forme Menschen
Nach meinem Bilde,
Ein Geschlecht, das mir gleich sei,
Zu leiden, zu weinen,
Zu genießen und zu freuen sich
Und dein nicht zu achten,
Wie ich!

(Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: Prometheus)

Nah --- I like to run my post count up by repeating myself.

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