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Maybe I should put this differently. If a map says that there is a mountain where none exists which is wrong? The Earth or the Map?
Why the earth (The map can't be wrong)
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Spoiler for Some Good Rules for Christians:
Luke 10:27 (Love God Above All, And Your Neighbor as yourself) And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 7:12 (Do unto others)
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 5:43-48 (Pray for those that persecute you)
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Luke 6:27-29 (Love your enemies.)
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
Originally Posted by Saint Augustine
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If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books.
Isaiah 8:12-13 (NIV) "Do not call conspiracy everything that these people call conspiracy; do not fear what they fear, and do not dread it. The Lord Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread."
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If that's your perception of what we think of science in general, I'll just keep my computer and my house.
I wasn't talking to you, AV. I was talking to Mr "Big Gun". He seems to think "so-called" scientists are good-for-nothings trying to kill his God. I simply stated that if he thinks that, he doesn't deserve what these "so-called" scientists provide.
Seriously, turn off your computer, give away your house, abandon civilization and go live in a cave. If you are this ungrateful of all that science has brought you (basically everything around you, all the little necessities of life, and everything that allows you to live in comfort), you don't deserve to partake of the fruits of the labor of countless scientists. I expect you to either apologize to the scientific community, or to never show your face here again, by virtue of you residing in a cave.
I won't be going anywhere until God takes me Home. Further, I'm waiting for an apology from evolutionists for one of the biggest hoaxes and con games in human history. Before I forget, every word of the Holy Bible is God Breathed - Inspired Directly by God. This is why it is much more than a literary Masterpiece of Perfection. Otherwise, there is no way that men could have written the Holy Bible.
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Philippians 2:5-11 KJV Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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Do what everyone else who thought It was just another book couldn't do --- eradicate the world of It.
Careful, AV. You are threading awfully close to blasphemy here. This mean anything to you?
The first commandment includes the bible.
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
Both can be right.
I can show you a map where all seven continents are together.
That map would be highly irrelevant. However, I would say that there is a third option to the map-mountain conundrum. The interpretation of the map might be wrong.
I won't be going anywhere until God takes me Home.
Then stop ranting about scientists who provide the food that you eat, the medicine that prolong your life, the car that you drive, the house that you sleep in, the computer you surf the internet with, the air-conditioner you turn on during summer, the central heating you turn on during winter, the tools and the know-how for the job you perform... to name a few things.
Originally Posted by 357magnum
Further, I'm waiting for an apology from evolutionists for one of the biggest hoaxes and con games in human history.
The only hoax that has been put forth in this thread is the despicable lie of creationism - a thing so vile that it encourages normally honest people to lie in spite of evidence, and to close their eyes to reality.
Originally Posted by 357magnum
Before I forget, every word of the Holy Bible is God Breathed - Inspired Directly by God.
Prove it, or it's no more than a baseless assertion.
Originally Posted by 357magnum
This is why it is much more than a literary Masterpiece of Perfection. Otherwise, there is no way that men could have written the Holy Bible.
But men did write the bible, and they were fallible men, living in a time were little was known about the world and the universe around them. I don't fault them for getting a lot of it wrong. I just fault current believers for not conforming to reality.
I won't be going anywhere until God takes me Home. Further, I'm waiting for an apology from evolutionists for one of the biggest hoaxes and con games in human history.
What hoax are you referring to? Please provide evidence of a hoax. Or are you just making stuff up?
Originally Posted by 357magnum
Before I forget, every word of the Holy Bible is God Breathed - Inspired Directly by God. This is why it is much more than a literary Masterpiece of Perfection. Otherwise, there is no way that men could have written the Holy Bible.
News flash! Men DID write The Bible. You have to be Deluded to believe otherwise.
__________________ "We must abandon the prevalent belief in the superior wisdom of the ignorant." – Daniel Boorstin
"Ignorance should NOT be tolerated just because it's cloaked in religion."
-Phred
"Creationists can't all be right but they can all be wrong."
-Frumious Bandersnatch
In other words, you'll die of old age before you show the Bible to be a book.
Are you admitting that you worship The Bible as your god? That's why you guys say that Christianity is not a religion, but a person relationship with Jesus. Of course, now I understand! You cannot worship Jesus, if you worship The Bible instead!
__________________ "We must abandon the prevalent belief in the superior wisdom of the ignorant." – Daniel Boorstin
"Ignorance should NOT be tolerated just because it's cloaked in religion."
-Phred
"Creationists can't all be right but they can all be wrong."
-Frumious Bandersnatch
(The map can't be wrong) 
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