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View Poll Results: Which do you think brings more joy to the world?
A belief in creationism. 5 11.11%
A knowledge of evolution. 40 88.89%
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Originally Posted by Thistlethorn View Post
Seriously, turn off your computer, give away your house, abandon civilization and go live in a cave.
No, thanks.

If that's your perception of what we think of science in general, I'll just keep my computer and my house.
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Originally Posted by Loudmouth View Post
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Last I checked the Bible is a book, not a god.

Maybe I should put this differently. If a map says that there is a mountain where none exists which is wrong? The Earth or the Map?
Why the earth (The map can't be wrong)
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
No, thanks.

If that's your perception of what we think of science in general, I'll just keep my computer and my house.
I wasn't talking to you, AV. I was talking to Mr "Big Gun". He seems to think "so-called" scientists are good-for-nothings trying to kill his God. I simply stated that if he thinks that, he doesn't deserve what these "so-called" scientists provide.
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Originally Posted by Loudmouth View Post
Last I checked the Bible is a book, not a god.
Prove it.

Do what everyone else who thought It was just another book couldn't do --- eradicate the world of It.
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Maybe I should put this differently. If a map says that there is a mountain where none exists which is wrong? The Earth or the Map?
Both can be right.

I can show you a map where all seven continents are together.
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Seriously, turn off your computer, give away your house, abandon civilization and go live in a cave. If you are this ungrateful of all that science has brought you (basically everything around you, all the little necessities of life, and everything that allows you to live in comfort), you don't deserve to partake of the fruits of the labor of countless scientists. I expect you to either apologize to the scientific community, or to never show your face here again, by virtue of you residing in a cave.
I won't be going anywhere until God takes me Home. Further, I'm waiting for an apology from evolutionists for one of the biggest hoaxes and con games in human history. Before I forget, every word of the Holy Bible is God Breathed - Inspired Directly by God. This is why it is much more than a literary Masterpiece of Perfection. Otherwise, there is no way that men could have written the Holy Bible.

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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Prove it.

Do what everyone else who thought It was just another book couldn't do --- eradicate the world of It.
Careful, AV. You are threading awfully close to blasphemy here. This mean anything to you?



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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Both can be right.

I can show you a map where all seven continents are together.
That map would be highly irrelevant. However, I would say that there is a third option to the map-mountain conundrum. The interpretation of the map might be wrong.
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Originally Posted by 357magnum View Post
I won't be going anywhere until God takes me Home.
Then stop ranting about scientists who provide the food that you eat, the medicine that prolong your life, the car that you drive, the house that you sleep in, the computer you surf the internet with, the air-conditioner you turn on during summer, the central heating you turn on during winter, the tools and the know-how for the job you perform... to name a few things.

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Further, I'm waiting for an apology from evolutionists for one of the biggest hoaxes and con games in human history.
The only hoax that has been put forth in this thread is the despicable lie of creationism - a thing so vile that it encourages normally honest people to lie in spite of evidence, and to close their eyes to reality.

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Before I forget, every word of the Holy Bible is God Breathed - Inspired Directly by God.
Prove it, or it's no more than a baseless assertion.

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This is why it is much more than a literary Masterpiece of Perfection. Otherwise, there is no way that men could have written the Holy Bible.
But men did write the bible, and they were fallible men, living in a time were little was known about the world and the universe around them. I don't fault them for getting a lot of it wrong. I just fault current believers for not conforming to reality.
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Originally Posted by Thistlethorn View Post
Careful, AV. You are threading awfully close to blasphemy here. This mean anything to you?
Does this mean anything to you:



These could be interpreted as a word picture of those who died before they could eradicate the world of God's Word.

In other words, you'll die of old age before you show the Bible to be a book.
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Originally Posted by 357magnum View Post
I won't be going anywhere until God takes me Home. Further, I'm waiting for an apology from evolutionists for one of the biggest hoaxes and con games in human history.
What hoax are you referring to? Please provide evidence of a hoax. Or are you just making stuff up?

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Before I forget, every word of the Holy Bible is God Breathed - Inspired Directly by God. This is why it is much more than a literary Masterpiece of Perfection. Otherwise, there is no way that men could have written the Holy Bible.
News flash! Men DID write The Bible. You have to be Deluded to believe otherwise.
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In other words, you'll die of old age before you show the Bible to be a book.
Are you admitting that you worship The Bible as your god? That's why you guys say that Christianity is not a religion, but a person relationship with Jesus. Of course, now I understand! You cannot worship Jesus, if you worship The Bible instead!
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